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On July 13 2007 03:12 ram wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2007 03:09 Zealbomb! wrote: that was a very disappointing game by both sides. Christ. I hope the next sets won't be this bad. It could be a fucking abc 123 game in all of them. don't be stupid, it's waaay better than those boring macro games nowdays! brings back to the days where terrans like boxer sync gundam owned everyone with micro, NOT macro ?? GEE THAT WAS AN INCREDIBLE MICRO GAME. WOW U SEE HIM KILL ALLL THOSE MUTAS? HOLY SHIT!
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On July 13 2007 03:12 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2007 03:11 oshibori_probe wrote:On July 13 2007 03:10 Hot_Bid wrote:On July 13 2007 03:08 oshibori_probe wrote: next game is monty right?
god GGPlay is fucked. Hes gotta win on python, then get lucky again on fantasy wait, him killing flash's 14cc is "lucky"? nono you misunderstand me.... fantasy comes down to luck of the draw on positions. Whoever gets a better spawn will prolly take game 5 closer positions, like the ones they spawned in game1, are better for the T ...unless they try something blatantly greedy like flash did
im guessing both play standard game 5, so it really might come down to where they spawn... if it gets to game 5
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On July 13 2007 03:14 oshibori_probe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2007 03:12 Hot_Bid wrote:On July 13 2007 03:11 oshibori_probe wrote:On July 13 2007 03:10 Hot_Bid wrote:On July 13 2007 03:08 oshibori_probe wrote: next game is monty right?
god GGPlay is fucked. Hes gotta win on python, then get lucky again on fantasy wait, him killing flash's 14cc is "lucky"? nono you misunderstand me.... fantasy comes down to luck of the draw on positions. Whoever gets a better spawn will prolly take game 5 closer positions, like the ones they spawned in game1, are better for the T ...unless they try something blatantly greedy like flash did im guessing both play standard game 5, so it really might come down to where they spawn... if it gets to game 5 also i think player skill might have a small impact on the outcome
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On July 13 2007 03:14 Zealbomb! wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2007 03:12 ram wrote:On July 13 2007 03:09 Zealbomb! wrote: that was a very disappointing game by both sides. Christ. I hope the next sets won't be this bad. It could be a fucking abc 123 game in all of them. don't be stupid, it's waaay better than those boring macro games nowdays! brings back to the days where terrans like boxer sync gundam owned everyone with micro, NOT macro ?? GEE THAT WAS AN INCREDIBLE MICRO GAME. WOW U SEE HIM KILL ALLL THOSE MUTAS? HOLY SHIT!
Do you know what thriller means?
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On July 13 2007 03:12 ram wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2007 03:09 Zealbomb! wrote: that was a very disappointing game by both sides. Christ. I hope the next sets won't be this bad. It could be a fucking abc 123 game in all of them. don't be stupid, it's waaay better than those boring macro games nowdays! brings back to the days where terrans like boxer sync gundam owned everyone with micro, NOT macro you mean bring back the days when terrans couldn't macro?
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Hmm, it's obvious that Flash does not want to touch the game past the 15 minute mark.
Thus the timing factory rush?
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On July 13 2007 03:15 yubee wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2007 03:14 oshibori_probe wrote:On July 13 2007 03:12 Hot_Bid wrote:On July 13 2007 03:11 oshibori_probe wrote:On July 13 2007 03:10 Hot_Bid wrote:On July 13 2007 03:08 oshibori_probe wrote: next game is monty right?
god GGPlay is fucked. Hes gotta win on python, then get lucky again on fantasy wait, him killing flash's 14cc is "lucky"? nono you misunderstand me.... fantasy comes down to luck of the draw on positions. Whoever gets a better spawn will prolly take game 5 closer positions, like the ones they spawned in game1, are better for the T ...unless they try something blatantly greedy like flash did im guessing both play standard game 5, so it really might come down to where they spawn... if it gets to game 5 also i think player skill might have a small impact on the outcome yubee ive been saying that flash is better all along, but know that everyone is calling him goodfriend for some strange reason Ive decided to leave out flashes superior skill to avoid random flames
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On July 13 2007 03:12 oshibori_probe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2007 03:12 Zealbomb! wrote:On July 13 2007 03:10 oshibori_probe wrote: wow zealbomb, you sure are optimistic!
This sure is better than the usual marine medic vs lurkerling that you see in EVERY SINGLE tvz game.
Sure if you get off on nothing but repetitive micro then you like that, but I prefer this. This was like...July vs Goodfriend game 5 osl final...but with Goodfriend winning. uuuuhh did you just compare July to GGPlay, and Goodfriend to Flash wow... just.... wow Christ are you fucking stupid? I just said "the game", not the fucking players. It was a standard tank push forcing the zerg to muta micro against additional reinforcements in increments. Sunk sunk sunk, siege, fortify, hit here hit there, and then before the forces reach capital mass, go for the kill and push the terran back.
I refuse to talk to you anymore so don't bother quoting. Let's just enjoy this fine game set and what it has to offer.
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On July 13 2007 03:16 GTR-2-Go wrote: Hmm, it's obvious that Flash does not want to touch the game past the 15 minute mark.
Thus the timing factory rush? Why did he 14cc then? You guys got to stop thinking FlaSh is all about early wins.
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On July 13 2007 03:13 boghat wrote: I think people are expecting sAviOr like games because for whatever reason they seem to be really good most of the time, i.e. bunch of good games vs. NaDa. (Maybe it's because ;o sAviOr makes a bunch of entertaining games?) All sAviOr semi-finals bo5 last season were amazing, it was a whole differnet level of quality, fun to watch. Games this season, Bo5 sets... are just crap if you compare :-) its sad but true.
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On July 13 2007 03:17 boghat wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2007 03:16 GTR-2-Go wrote: Hmm, it's obvious that Flash does not want to touch the game past the 15 minute mark.
Thus the timing factory rush? Why did he 14cc then? You guys got to stop thinking FlaSh is all about early wins. uh, he 14cc because he's not confident going into a long game without a risky ass advantage like 14cc, it shows how NOT confident he is with a normal long game
opposite of what you said
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On July 13 2007 03:15 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2007 03:12 ram wrote:On July 13 2007 03:09 Zealbomb! wrote: that was a very disappointing game by both sides. Christ. I hope the next sets won't be this bad. It could be a fucking abc 123 game in all of them. don't be stupid, it's waaay better than those boring macro games nowdays! brings back to the days where terrans like boxer sync gundam owned everyone with micro, NOT macro you mean bring back the days when terrans couldn't macro?
What about Oov. Hes got godly macro, so that means TL.net assumes his micro sucks... however it doesnt!!!
I personally really like his games now
TL.net can not graps the idea that someone can be good at 2 things, and that every pro has a matchup they are much worse at than any other.
Thus this stereotype of flash being a cheesing micro terran that cant play TvZ has sprung up.
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we'll see in the next few games won't we? he's yet to show anything different, this series can pretty much change everyone's opinion of him.
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On July 13 2007 03:18 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2007 03:17 boghat wrote:On July 13 2007 03:16 GTR-2-Go wrote: Hmm, it's obvious that Flash does not want to touch the game past the 15 minute mark.
Thus the timing factory rush? Why did he 14cc then? You guys got to stop thinking FlaSh is all about early wins. uh, he 14cc because he's not confident going into a long game without a risky ass advantage like 14cc, it shows how NOT confident he is with a normal long game opposite of what you said
I think its obvious that flash is a risk taker. With the rush distance being fairly long on fantasy he decides to do a 14cc and see how it turns out.
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On July 13 2007 03:18 oshibori_probe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2007 03:15 Hot_Bid wrote:On July 13 2007 03:12 ram wrote:On July 13 2007 03:09 Zealbomb! wrote: that was a very disappointing game by both sides. Christ. I hope the next sets won't be this bad. It could be a fucking abc 123 game in all of them. don't be stupid, it's waaay better than those boring macro games nowdays! brings back to the days where terrans like boxer sync gundam owned everyone with micro, NOT macro you mean bring back the days when terrans couldn't macro? What about Oov. Hes got godly macro, so that means TL.net assumes his micro sucks... however it doesnt!!! I personally really like his games now TL.net can not graps the idea that someone can be good at 2 things, and that every pro has a matchup they are much worse at than any other. Thus this stereotype of flash being a cheesing micro terran that cant play TvZ has sprung up. you're the fucking idiot here, stop generalizing TL so much
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thedeadhaji
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WHOO I"M LATE TO THE PARTAY!
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god ggplay better win this, flash is just so damn overhyped.
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On July 13 2007 03:18 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2007 03:17 boghat wrote:On July 13 2007 03:16 GTR-2-Go wrote: Hmm, it's obvious that Flash does not want to touch the game past the 15 minute mark.
Thus the timing factory rush? Why did he 14cc then? You guys got to stop thinking FlaSh is all about early wins. uh, he 14cc because he's not confident going into a long game without a risky ass advantage like 14cc, it shows how NOT confident he is with a normal long game opposite of what you said You might be right but 14cc usually shows a player is ready for a longer game. Unless he was lying in his winner's interview against Bisu he seems confident in his long game. I'm pretty sure he only did the build he did the second game because of the tech he saw (FE) at GGPlay's base.
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oov, along with crappy maps like Luna, introduced the way Terrans play today, which is obviously macro-based.
If it weren't for maps or oov, we'd still be seeing 3rax Spark rushes.
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