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Luolis
Finland7007 Posts
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Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
On July 15 2016 08:18 Luolis wrote: Why the hell does Cutler have the AWP instead of Koosta. Goddamnit people, let Koosta have his AWP. Poor koosta, liquid broke him and I dont see him or his image recover from it. Now Pita is awping, because cutler sucks with it, but still koosta is 2nd on top of the scoreboard of CLG... I guess they just want to leave as soon as possible, rather today then tomorrow. | ||
Luolis
Finland7007 Posts
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Luolis
Finland7007 Posts
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Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
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HugoBallzak
700 Posts
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Luolis
Finland7007 Posts
On July 15 2016 09:51 HugoBallzak wrote: This is hilarious. #s1mplewasright (for not giving awp to koosta) I would not go that far rofl. | ||
Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
Koosta shows beast mode, seems that liquid couldnt break his soul, but still the rest of clg... | ||
Faruko
Chile34159 Posts
Watching csgo on tv ia something else honestly | ||
Faruko
Chile34159 Posts
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
EnvyUs had the bestresults in the pools, they should then go against the worst team in the pool (Mouz) but no, they go against the second best in Fnatic !!! Reis was a good agent when he was still in SC2 but he is just terrible as a commissioner. What a shame! | ||
Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
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Faruko
Chile34159 Posts
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On July 18 2016 09:16 Faruko wrote: i dont know ? maybe to watch some csgo ? "Some csgo" hm. I can watch some csgo anytime. There's Joshog and Summit. Right now there's some csgo. Selfless vs. C9. The result doesn't matter, it was just some csgo. It's pretty bad in comparison to good csgo (not to be confused with some csgo). SK plays some good csgo. Edit: Now that I got the sass out of my system, what I meant to say was that it's a shame for the tournament as a whole, still understand why people would watch individual games but meh. The integrity of the whole thing is very much put into question with this BS. | ||
tolkienfanatic
United States110 Posts
On July 16 2016 17:29 Otolia wrote: How the fuck was the bracket drawn ? EnvyUs had the bestresults in the pools, they should then go against the worst team in the pool (Mouz) but no, they go against the second best in Fnatic !!! Reis was a good agent when he was still in SC2 but he is just terrible as a commissioner. What a shame! Both the LCQ and the Playoffs bracket are drawn randomly | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
The decision to disqualify SK and ex-SK from the league is one that they say was going to happen regardless, but one that also included some political machinations by some team owners to protect the idea that the spot belonged to the organization and not the players. That may sound strange to people in esports but it's the way a lot of other sports leagues are run and Turner Sports intentionally set up E-League in this way. To criticize the commissioner of the league for following the rules set forth in its creation goes against the very idea of a commissioner. Similarly, to call into question the integrity of the league itself for, again, following its own guidelines borders on intellectual dishonesty. No, SK will not play in E-League, and it was the correct decision. No matter an organization's intent in making a roster move, it's bad for the future of the league if a precedent is set that allows an organization to buy their way into a better spot within the league. There is certainly an argument to be had about if it's good for the game as a whole to use this model, and I may even entertain it myself, but pointlessly rambling on about the decision as if it completely ruins the competition is a bit of a stretch. | ||
Otolia
France5805 Posts
On July 19 2016 04:23 tolkienfanatic wrote: Both the LCQ and the Playoffs bracket are drawn randomly I realize that. It was more of a comment of the poor system in place. | ||
Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On July 19 2016 12:58 yamato77 wrote: You can disagree with E-League's choices but at least attempt to inform yourself about them before spewing things on a forum about how much they ruined their league. The decision to disqualify SK and ex-SK from the league is one that they say was going to happen regardless, but one that also included some political machinations by some team owners to protect the idea that the spot belonged to the organization and not the players. That may sound strange to people in esports but it's the way a lot of other sports leagues are run and Turner Sports intentionally set up E-League in this way. To criticize the commissioner of the league for following the rules set forth in its creation goes against the very idea of a commissioner. Similarly, to call into question the integrity of the league itself for, again, following its own guidelines borders on intellectual dishonesty. No, SK will not play in E-League, and it was the correct decision. No matter an organization's intent in making a roster move, it's bad for the future of the league if a precedent is set that allows an organization to buy their way into a better spot within the league. There is certainly an argument to be had about if it's good for the game as a whole to use this model, and I may even entertain it myself, but pointlessly rambling on about the decision as if it completely ruins the competition is a bit of a stretch. I was writing a post about how I was very annoyed that you'd tell me to "at least attempt to inform myself" (which is absurd) before spewing (stop being an asshole yamato77), and that you questioned my intellectual honesty, and at the end you said something about pointless rambling because I wrote a couple of lines. It felt unjustified and unnecessarily aggressive toward me. Then it struck me that part of why you're being unpleasant actually stems at least partially from a misunderstanding. Most of my concern was about SK not playing because SK was the favorite to win the whole tournament. When I said "The integrity of the whole thing is very much put into question with this BS.", I didn't mean that I thought Turner was corrupt somehow, it was just poorly worded. I meant that the results of the tournament ultimately will be colored by that. This was SK's tournament to lose, and we'll never know if SK would've taken it or not. Who would've beat them? Would they have taken 2 majors + Eleague in a row? It breaks the storyline and reduces the value of the tournament in a sense. As for the politics, you're correct, I was not aware because I'm a casual viewer and I was only here to write a couple of lines, didn't intend to delve in the politics of it. If I were to comment now with limited info, I'd only say it's unfortunate that this happened, and although the commissioner probably followed the rules, it seems like in this case the rules kind of failed to result in the most desirable outcome. Can't blame the commissioner for that but either way it's a shame that the org swap resulted in this. Anyway, I can appreciate that you think you're awesome. Good job you. I'm sorry I was wildly controversial. What the fuck even. I used to appreciate this forum for CSGO content because it didn't have the irritating people you get on HLTV and these other communities. RIP. | ||
Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
So many "misunderstandings", I wonder when the common denominator becomes apparent. Also for all the aggression that people show you, Ive never once seen anyone insult you, but you seem to have no problem doing it, especially after occupying some false moral high ground. Anyway dont want to bait you anything, just some sincere non aggressive observation. I hope there is no misunderstanding regarding this. As for E-league, I guess its pertinant to point out Thorin here because he summarized in this case anyway, quite reasonably. It hurts that SK are not playing but the appropriate precendent has been set. + Show Spoiler [Thorin] + | ||
Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On July 20 2016 14:02 Djzapz wrote: Anyway, I can appreciate that you think you're awesme. Good job you. I'm sorry I was wildly controversial. What the fuck even. I used to appreciate this forum for CSGO content because it didn't have the irritating people you get on HLTV and these other communities. RIP. You weren't "controversial". You wrote something that resembled as a rant, was ambiguous, and potentially could be interpreted in different ways (and as yamato follows quite closely what you call the "politics", that's not surprising he actually addressed that part). Of course, when you say it's bullshit, it's quite not a big stretch to think you actually consider this a bad decision by E-League and so on. Don't be surprised that people talk about that, and if that's not what you meant, then precise it. And indeed, we're not on HLTV, that doesn't mean you can discredit anyone's post just because you feel irritated. | ||
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