On July 02 2016 11:47 amazingxkcd wrote:
uh i wouldnt want anyone to have my babies but yes VP sweep this first map out!
uh i wouldnt want anyone to have my babies but yes VP sweep this first map out!
Not happening. Kenny typed in iddqd.
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On July 02 2016 11:47 amazingxkcd wrote: uh i wouldnt want anyone to have my babies but yes VP sweep this first map out! Not happening. Kenny typed in iddqd. | ||
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On July 02 2016 18:17 Ragnarork wrote: Wow, EnVy won that? In quite a fashion They played like never before, no more rush a site and headshots like theres no tomorrow, much more tactical, looking for opening kills with apex/kennys, making rotations to deal with lurkers or cts making rotations, using fakes. It was pretty awesome, seems like without maniac debil can really be the igl they need, he is even playing better than before lol | ||
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On July 07 2016 04:53 amazingxkcd wrote: https://twitter.com/minsikko/status/750751598603894785 Yeah thats pretty bullshit. Org swaps are not roster changes. But w/e | ||
Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
With valves stance on the major spots heritage, it should be clear, that spots should belong to a group of players, not orgs. But lets fully ignore, that CS:GO has no off season, that CS:GO contracts run out all over the time, that some contracts dont even go 1 year, that the orgs do not own the players... we just apply the same rules that have been applied to NHL and other american sports and that will work... Ex-SK gets punished just for their contracts running out, how much bullshit can that be? SKs contract in LG ran out and they swaped over to SK, why punish them? The ELEAGUE rules never define what an org is or what a "team" is. The complete scene understands under a team 5-6 people, not the organisation they play for. Or would anyone liked to see TSM instead of Astralis at the MLG Major? But ELEAGUE means that "Team" stand solely for the organisation and nothing more. With this ruleset all CS:GO teams playing in ELEAGUE would have been forced to expand their contracts after these ran out if it would be mid ELEAGUE season. How shall that work in an esport world, where 3 years later maybe even the game isnt even played anymore? Esports is changing much faster then any conventional sport and there is no off season either, what do they expect? Sorry, but all in all I only read "shit, we do not have an U.S.American team in the playoffs, we have to do something or our ratings will be bad. Wait, wasnt there this SK-LG thing? Nobody wants to see brasilians on TV anyway... lets kick them out, they changed their lineup, didnt they? Okay, we got C9 in, U.S. team saved, lets pick also renegades in, who most likely lose their org soon. Yes, I am triggered and mad, how a professional League can just kick out the best team in the world because they signed a new organisation after their contracts ran out. And on top they kick another team that just did not get resigned by their org. Bullshit for me. | ||
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ELeague was originally only going to sanction Luminosity, and award its playoff spot to its players, who now compete under the SK Gaming banner. This was prevented by a petition with signatures from the owners of seven participating organizations: Cloud9, Counter Logic Gaming, Echo Fox, NRG Esports, OpTic Gaming, Team Liquid, and Team SoloMid. The petition, a copy of which was obtained by ESPN, says that each team "in good conscience, may not be able to compete" if ELeague were to kick out Luminosity, yet leave the spot to the players, as it violates ELeague tournament entry agreement signed by each team participating in the league and the ELeague rules. Those agreements state that the spots in ELeague are owned and operated by the teams, not the players on the team http://espn.go.com/esports/story/_/id/16836428/eleague-teams-petitioned-prevent-sk-inheriting-luminosity-playoff-spot SK/Ex-LG might be 10x as skilled as NA but you can never take on the drama. | ||
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The best thing is, with their hate towards SK/ex-LG for taking their easy NA Spoils from them, they majorly fucked a small group of people known as Ex-SK. Good job TL and the rest. | ||
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Also, if esports wants to avoid situations like the one that happened between LG and SK these past couple months then rules need to enforced on them by the tournaments and leagues. Same thing with valve roster locking rules for the major. If there wasn't a hardline stance in situations like this then orgs will forever do shit like poach rosters and bring in high-level ringers on a whim so why shouldn't teams competing in eleague ask that the signed agreement be enforced? | ||
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On July 07 2016 12:19 HugoBallzak wrote: Sucks but I don't see anything wrong with it. SK suddenly goes from barely 'moving on' to the top of the rankings by picking up the first place team? This is an American league on American television. Of course it makes sense that these teams feel that an org let alone a german one and member of wesa shouldnt be able to buy their spot at the top. You do realise that these changes were not made for the sake of E-League though...? as i said CS isn't about organizations but the players and i hope it will stay so. | ||
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On July 07 2016 12:36 Luolis wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2016 12:19 HugoBallzak wrote: Sucks but I don't see anything wrong with it. SK suddenly goes from barely 'moving on' to the top of the rankings by picking up the first place team? This is an American league on American television. Of course it makes sense that these teams feel that an org let alone a german one and member of wesa shouldnt be able to buy their spot at the top. You do realise that these changes were not made for the sake of E-League though...? as i said CS isn't about organizations but the players and i hope it will stay so. Yeah I realize that eleague was obviously neither the players or the SK org's #1 concern. That is why this happened. CS is about CS. It sure is nice to say its 'about the players' but is it really? If the players really thought so they would have formed a union by now and be sittin pretty. Fact is that all these players and orgs are cutthroat and only look out for themselves without giving second thought to the the leagues or tournaments they compete in and all the big money being thrown their way. Every single eleague team has invested time and money into their rosters and if they dont perform come tv time tough shit. Its not fair for an org to be able to shoot to the top of the rankings of a league that they already fielded a roster of 5 and shit the bed in. This is why free agency exists in real organized big money sports and that is the direction that everyone and their mother wants to take esports in. We have already seen how unprofessional this roster transfer between LG and SK has been and I bet not a single one of them ever thought about the eleague ramifications. | ||
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VP plow that's the name that name again is VP plow. | ||
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