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I would like to document all of the fastest possible timings for Zerg builds, starting from 4 pool
https://repmastered.app/game/VhZvF3Tmx7ZVlw7XrlbO9g6Ir3EqPB4FMS998TRxpz0
I got it down at 0:34, can anyone can cut that down to 0:33? I had enough at 0:33, but the drone had to travel an extra pixel
Alternatively, post your best timing on another Zerg build, like 5 pool
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You would need to pick a map and specific mineral lines/positions. Else i take fastest.
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On April 18 2024 22:55 kogeT wrote: You would need to pick a map and specific mineral lines/positions. Else i take fastest.
I'm talking about ladder maps. Take any position, they should be roughly equivalent (except left might be worse in some builds)
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This sounds fun. I'll try to beat it.
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Also, it would be great to try it on more comprehensive builds, eg total min/gas count and timings for 2 hath muta, 2.5 hath etc with condition to make 6 lings at specific time etc.
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On April 19 2024 17:44 kogeT wrote: Also, it would be great to try it on more comprehensive builds, eg total min/gas count and timings for 2 hath muta, 2.5 hath etc with condition to make 6 lings at specific time etc.
Sure, my benchmark would be time to get to 7 mutas and how many larvae you have. The exact amount of minerals is not as important as the number of drones you can get up to in the mid game while still making mutas.
The timings for Lair should be perfectly lined up with the larva pop.
Upgrading the Lair on your main hatchery should be something like: 2:33(12 pool), 2:48 (11/11/10), 3:02 (2.5 hatch muta), 3:17 (2.75 hatch muta), 3:31 (3 bases before gas)
I've found absolutely NO benefit in 3 hatcheries in base before gas, since you can easily get everything you need with a faster gas. It only delays your third hatchery by like 4 seconds while getting you to mutas ~15 seconds faster.
==== If you upgrade on your expansion hatchery, it makes sense not to make a hatch on exactly 12 since that will sync your hatcheries.
the larva spawns at this time + larva block time
14.364 28.728 43.092 57.456 1:11.82 1:26.184 1:40.548 1:54.912 2:09.276 2:23.64 2:38.004 2:52.368 3:06.732 3:21.096 3:35.46 3:49.824 4:04.188
lair upgrade takes 63 seconds so you want to start it 8 seconds after your last larva mining 100 gas from the time where you start the extractor takes 48 seconds
so if you 11 hatch you should get it completed 75 seconds later - I have already posted a 2:31 1 hatch timing so that's 2:46 at the fastest and you should gas at like 2:04 to start the lair on your second hatch at 2:54 for a kind of an in-between timing
I guess if you 12 hatch you can do 2:59 Lair, but in real life that's basically the same as the 3:02 timing since you will often have a few seconds delay putting the hatch down
similarly, if you do a 9 over hatch you also click up at 2:59 on the expansion hatchery since I'm getting 1:22 hatch instead of 1:36
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I tried 6 pool, but it's an awkward timing because you end up droning to 7, making an overlord, but it's not on time for the lings
so you have to do
6 pool 6 overlord drone to 7 6 lings
but you're very slightly larva blocking yourself
I got it down at :47 after having enough minerals at :46, if anyone can get a :46 timing OR a faster 3rd pair of lings without losing a whole drone I want to see it
https://repmastered.app/game/aAw15QUpee98uO-gCxMgt6bp_HkqI_1iBsFDCVtFeCE
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