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On May 03 2008 20:15 Kwark wrote: I disagree. GoodFriend knew he had a decisive advantage and the game was his. So did Shark. Shark had no choice but to mass up and hope GoodFriend make a mistake. GoodFriend took half his army out when he should have known that his advantage was already enough and that Shark had to go allin. Basically he completely misread the situation and made a totally unforced error, throwing away a game he had won.
Where does your post disagree with mine?
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You see this kind of shit all the time in low level games. Where the better player is totally brutalising the weaker player who realises he has no choice but to do a strategy which for any chance of success relies on the opponent fucking up. GoodFriend should have been aware of this. That he had an advantage and that if he played safe he could ride that advantage to victory. And he should have been aware that Shark was aware of it and therefore Shark had to do an allin build. Just totally sloppy.
Unless of course GF was aware that Shark was aware that he was aware that Shark had to allin. And therefore GF thought Shark wouldn't allin because it'd never work because GF was aware it was his only chance. In which case props for the 6th level thinking.
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On May 03 2008 20:18 Orome wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2008 20:15 Kwark wrote: I disagree. GoodFriend knew he had a decisive advantage and the game was his. So did Shark. Shark had no choice but to mass up and hope GoodFriend make a mistake. GoodFriend took half his army out when he should have known that his advantage was already enough and that Shark had to go allin. Basically he completely misread the situation and made a totally unforced error, throwing away a game he had won. Where does your post disagree with mine? It doesn't. It disagrees with the people it contradicts, such as Kyuki. It agrees with the people who are saying the same, such as you.
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lucifer is the next big protoss !
he does very well lately
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On May 03 2008 20:20 Kwark wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2008 20:18 Orome wrote:On May 03 2008 20:15 Kwark wrote: I disagree. GoodFriend knew he had a decisive advantage and the game was his. So did Shark. Shark had no choice but to mass up and hope GoodFriend make a mistake. GoodFriend took half his army out when he should have known that his advantage was already enough and that Shark had to go allin. Basically he completely misread the situation and made a totally unforced error, throwing away a game he had won. Where does your post disagree with mine? It doesn't. It disagrees with the people it contradicts, such as Kyuki. It agrees with the people who are saying the same, such as you.
Your post was right below mine so I thought you were talking to me.
On May 03 2008 20:19 Kwark wrote: Unless of course GF was aware that Shark was aware that he was aware that Shark had to allin. And therefore GF thought Shark wouldn't allin because it'd never work because GF was aware it was his only chance. In which case props for the 6th level thinking.
Psychology stops being a factor when one side only has one option left.^^
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On May 03 2008 20:19 Kwark wrote: You see this kind of shit all the time in low level games. Where the better player is totally brutalising the weaker player who realises he has no choice but to do a strategy which for any chance of success relies on the opponent fucking up. GoodFriend should have been aware of this. That he had an advantage and that if he played safe he could ride that advantage to victory. And he should have been aware that Shark was aware of it and therefore Shark had to do an allin build. Just totally sloppy.
Unless of course GF was aware that Shark was aware that he was aware that Shark had to allin. And therefore GF thought Shark wouldn't allin because it'd never work because GF was aware it was his only chance. In which case props for the 6th level thinking.
QFT <3 kwark
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What... aware of that hes aware that..... uh?
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Oh man, I gotta go now. Go Nada, you can't loose against scrubs like this.
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Game started @Tiamat
Shark (white) @ 4:30 Lucifer (yellow) @10:30
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lucifer builds first pylon @ natural ! shark 9pools
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On May 03 2008 20:20 Kwark wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2008 20:18 Orome wrote:On May 03 2008 20:15 Kwark wrote: I disagree. GoodFriend knew he had a decisive advantage and the game was his. So did Shark. Shark had no choice but to mass up and hope GoodFriend make a mistake. GoodFriend took half his army out when he should have known that his advantage was already enough and that Shark had to go allin. Basically he completely misread the situation and made a totally unforced error, throwing away a game he had won. Where does your post disagree with mine? It doesn't. It disagrees with the people it contradicts, such as Kyuki. It agrees with the people who are saying the same, such as you.
Ah ffs, while I agree, what has my comment anything to do with your disagreement? Shark executed what needed to be done in a very nice way, and made it out. Shark IS playing good right now, and I stated nothing about how poorly GF cared for his advantage..
Tired of bs comments like that...
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shark puts down the hatch @ his nat forge rdy and 2 cannons in build for lucifer
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nexus started first 2 lings are out
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3rd hatch as 2nd expo in build gateway rdy and gas rdy too nexus too T_T
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lair and hydra den building ! core rdy
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shark prevents lucifer from further scouting 2nd expo done and first hydras are out
scouting probe dead outside nat sair out and templar archives warping sair harrassing
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shark takes out gateway with 4 hydra lucifer makes many cannons
8 hydra and ~12 lings outside his nat now
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On May 03 2008 20:28 Kyuki wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2008 20:20 Kwark wrote:On May 03 2008 20:18 Orome wrote:On May 03 2008 20:15 Kwark wrote: I disagree. GoodFriend knew he had a decisive advantage and the game was his. So did Shark. Shark had no choice but to mass up and hope GoodFriend make a mistake. GoodFriend took half his army out when he should have known that his advantage was already enough and that Shark had to go allin. Basically he completely misread the situation and made a totally unforced error, throwing away a game he had won. Where does your post disagree with mine? It doesn't. It disagrees with the people it contradicts, such as Kyuki. It agrees with the people who are saying the same, such as you. Ah ffs, while I agree, what has my comment anything to do with your disagreement? Shark executed what needed to be done in a very nice way, and made it out. Shark IS playing good right now, and I stated nothing about how poorly GF cared for his advantage.. Tired of bs comments like that... Shark got brutalised for 3/4 of the game. Getting yourself into a situation where you must do a hail mary isn't good play. That's like saying "he microed his tiny army fantastically against the huge army of his opponent, he is a very good player" while completely ignoring that fact that his army was tiny. Shark expanded and got it crushed about 20 seconds later, losing about 10 drones in the mix. That is not playing good. In a standard ZvT when the terran fast expands it's normal to hold onto your 3rd base with mutaling. Failing to do so is borderline incompetent.
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3&4 gate warping, first templars rdy
shark sending more hydra i expect lurker aspect to be rdy soon
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