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On February 14 2008 19:45 G.s)NarutO wrote: by the way
GAME 2 PREDICTION, JAEDONG BS SKILLS WINS THE GAME [X]CORRECT []WRONG
:D:D sorry I'm hyped I feel with you, as you cannot watch the game
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valks take so much time to make. u need to gather quite a few (like 5-6 minimum) before using them (or they go down in a snap and which makes them unusable in a situation like this one where flash needed antiair immediately. maybe they're viable with a very well timed build but it would be a very specific "anti-mass muta" build and would suck vs other stuff I suppose
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Seriously, how many turrets does it take these days to defend your mineral line? Muta control is so sexy it seems like 5 isn't enough anymore.
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On February 14 2008 19:46 disciple wrote: offtopic : when will we see Bisu in the red uniform ?
Tomorow in the OSL against Much probably.
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On February 14 2008 19:46 disciple wrote: offtopic : when will we see Bisu in the red uniform ? I was wondering as well - maybe tomorrow if today was goodbye ceremony? Besides, it is not decided that he is going to be red, there is also a white outfit iirc.
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On February 14 2008 19:41 AnOth3rDAy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2008 19:38 buddhabeads wrote: flash went for the wrong tactic there MM force no chance against mass muts once JD started producing muts flash shouldv switched to goliath and pushed out MM cant back up his wraiths i dont think its a good idea to mech against 2 hatch muta... first you must have rines to protect the turrets, and if u start making goliaths it means u have a moment when your unit count is low, (u stop producing marines) and then he would be destroyed. flash did the right thing
The problem with MMs is that they get picked off way too easy. Each marine cost 50 minerals and they often die to one stacked mut attack without dealing any dmgs. Same goes with turrets, they get taken out too easy,
Flash only used one group of marines to defend against the mut harass he had another group waiting to push ou. I think he produced too many marines, once JD's muts reached a critical mass, marines become utterly useless.
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On February 14 2008 19:45 G.s)NarutO wrote: by the way
GAME 2 PREDICTION, JAEDONG BS SKILLS WINS THE GAME [X]CORRECT []WRONG
:D:D sorry I'm hyped I don't blame you. Amazing first 2 games. Mistakes or not, both players are playing brilliantly, so amazing to watch.
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On February 14 2008 19:47 buddhabeads wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2008 19:41 AnOth3rDAy wrote:On February 14 2008 19:38 buddhabeads wrote: flash went for the wrong tactic there MM force no chance against mass muts once JD started producing muts flash shouldv switched to goliath and pushed out MM cant back up his wraiths i dont think its a good idea to mech against 2 hatch muta... first you must have rines to protect the turrets, and if u start making goliaths it means u have a moment when your unit count is low, (u stop producing marines) and then he would be destroyed. flash did the right thing The problem with MMs is that they get picked off way too easy. Each marine cost 50 minerals and they often die to one stacked mut attack without dealing any dmgs. Same goes with turrets, they get taken out too easy, Flash only used one group of marines to defend against the mut harass he had another group waiting to push ou. I think he produced too many marines, once JD's muts reached a critical mass, marines become utterly useless.
what else can you do?
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^^ thanks guys for not blaming me.. I'm sitting here enjoying your live reports haha... :D! I need coke, brb!
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On February 14 2008 19:48 Sunyveil wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2008 19:47 buddhabeads wrote:On February 14 2008 19:41 AnOth3rDAy wrote:On February 14 2008 19:38 buddhabeads wrote: flash went for the wrong tactic there MM force no chance against mass muts once JD started producing muts flash shouldv switched to goliath and pushed out MM cant back up his wraiths i dont think its a good idea to mech against 2 hatch muta... first you must have rines to protect the turrets, and if u start making goliaths it means u have a moment when your unit count is low, (u stop producing marines) and then he would be destroyed. flash did the right thing The problem with MMs is that they get picked off way too easy. Each marine cost 50 minerals and they often die to one stacked mut attack without dealing any dmgs. Same goes with turrets, they get taken out too easy, Flash only used one group of marines to defend against the mut harass he had another group waiting to push ou. I think he produced too many marines, once JD's muts reached a critical mass, marines become utterly useless. what else can you do?
Seriously, what is with all of these monday morning quarterbacks. Going mech was not going to work.
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On February 14 2008 19:47 buddhabeads wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2008 19:41 AnOth3rDAy wrote:On February 14 2008 19:38 buddhabeads wrote: flash went for the wrong tactic there MM force no chance against mass muts once JD started producing muts flash shouldv switched to goliath and pushed out MM cant back up his wraiths i dont think its a good idea to mech against 2 hatch muta... first you must have rines to protect the turrets, and if u start making goliaths it means u have a moment when your unit count is low, (u stop producing marines) and then he would be destroyed. flash did the right thing The problem with MMs is that they get picked off way too easy. Each marine cost 50 minerals and they often die to one stacked mut attack without dealing any dmgs. Same goes with turrets, they get taken out too easy, Flash only used one group of marines to defend against the mut harass he had another group waiting to push ou. I think he produced too many marines, once JD's muts reached a critical mass, marines become utterly useless.
Gollies are weak against Mutas due to their damage type Even with less range, rines are better.
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On February 14 2008 19:47 buddhabeads wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2008 19:41 AnOth3rDAy wrote:On February 14 2008 19:38 buddhabeads wrote: flash went for the wrong tactic there MM force no chance against mass muts once JD started producing muts flash shouldv switched to goliath and pushed out MM cant back up his wraiths i dont think its a good idea to mech against 2 hatch muta... first you must have rines to protect the turrets, and if u start making goliaths it means u have a moment when your unit count is low, (u stop producing marines) and then he would be destroyed. flash did the right thing The problem with MMs is that they get picked off way too easy. Each marine cost 50 minerals and they often die to one stacked mut attack without dealing any dmgs. Same goes with turrets, they get taken out too easy, Flash only used one group of marines to defend against the mut harass he had another group waiting to push ou. I think he produced too many marines, once JD's muts reached a critical mass, marines become utterly useless.
i think he had 1 group in his main and 1 group in his expo , not waiting to get out but waiting for muta to arrive so he could attack them directly.
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On February 14 2008 19:48 Sunyveil wrote: what else can you do?
you gunna do nuthin, you gunna die?
/hit with bricks by all the other posters in this thread
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so he was preparing for the MU with Much in the MBC training camp? dunno...think Bisu will lose tomorrow because of the emotional ceremony today. Go Bisu !
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On February 14 2008 19:48 Sunyveil wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2008 19:47 buddhabeads wrote:On February 14 2008 19:41 AnOth3rDAy wrote:On February 14 2008 19:38 buddhabeads wrote: flash went for the wrong tactic there MM force no chance against mass muts once JD started producing muts flash shouldv switched to goliath and pushed out MM cant back up his wraiths i dont think its a good idea to mech against 2 hatch muta... first you must have rines to protect the turrets, and if u start making goliaths it means u have a moment when your unit count is low, (u stop producing marines) and then he would be destroyed. flash did the right thing The problem with MMs is that they get picked off way too easy. Each marine cost 50 minerals and they often die to one stacked mut attack without dealing any dmgs. Same goes with turrets, they get taken out too easy, Flash only used one group of marines to defend against the mut harass he had another group waiting to push ou. I think he produced too many marines, once JD's muts reached a critical mass, marines become utterly useless. what else can you do?
He seems to think you go goliaths vs mass mutas, even though they deal 9 damage to +1 mutas, cost 100/50 instead of 50/0, can't be healed quickly, are slow, and get owned by a mix of mutas and lings.
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On February 14 2008 19:51 LonelyMargarita wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2008 19:48 Sunyveil wrote:On February 14 2008 19:47 buddhabeads wrote:On February 14 2008 19:41 AnOth3rDAy wrote:On February 14 2008 19:38 buddhabeads wrote: flash went for the wrong tactic there MM force no chance against mass muts once JD started producing muts flash shouldv switched to goliath and pushed out MM cant back up his wraiths i dont think its a good idea to mech against 2 hatch muta... first you must have rines to protect the turrets, and if u start making goliaths it means u have a moment when your unit count is low, (u stop producing marines) and then he would be destroyed. flash did the right thing The problem with MMs is that they get picked off way too easy. Each marine cost 50 minerals and they often die to one stacked mut attack without dealing any dmgs. Same goes with turrets, they get taken out too easy, Flash only used one group of marines to defend against the mut harass he had another group waiting to push ou. I think he produced too many marines, once JD's muts reached a critical mass, marines become utterly useless. what else can you do? He seems to think you go goliaths vs mass mutas, even though they deal 9 damage to +1 mutas, cost 100/50 instead of 50/0, can't be healed quickly, are slow, and get owned by a mix of mutas and lings.
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I withdraw my statements in that case
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Is anyone else getting a loud ringin noise with their stream?
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Loki II Flash White@1 Jaedong Blue@7
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Loki Twoooooooooooo,
White Flash, right, Blue Jaedong, left.
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hero scouting scv taking out jaedong egg
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