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On July 06 2007 03:50 kNyTTyM wrote: finally I am happy over something that happened in OSL.
How did we arrive to a PvP finals in MSL?
The only thing that could cure this is a nice, drawn-out, heavily positional and deeply strategic, 5 hrs long TvT final for the OSL...
Gogo Flash.
-Mynock
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I voted wrong twice, voted FBH and Stork :-) damn I'm so happy Iris won though, I actually wanted Strok to win originaly, but after yesterday's pathetic show, I was thinking Stork in one finals is more than enough, I didn't want FBH or Stork vs Bisu, after that Bo5.. Bisu should have got the title by default, it was that bad. GJ Iris for showing Stork PvT isn't kids playtime.
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3 build order wins. How unlucky =(
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On July 06 2007 03:45 xM(Z wrote: 2 facts > 1 gate; the hell was stork thinking
Incase you havent noticed progamers tend to prepare 1 build for an entire match. Usually they have 1 or 2 strats that differ tho, and depending on the player its either a cheese or something less common.
Look at when Bisu took out Nal Ra, purely out of build order, this is no different. Also note that it is still safer to play a build you know more rather than out of the blue change from the strats uve practiced 12+ hours a day to strats you havent.
Iris took a risk and it payed off, only the finals will tell how wrong or lucky the TL.net bandwagon is.
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On July 06 2007 03:45 Organ wrote: Don't you find it similar to Bisu vs Savior Final? Stork hasn't been able to adapt agressive Iris's play as well as ipx.
I do, actually! Very similar scenarios. Iris obviously studied Stork's play style closely and chose the perfect counters. Stork was unable to adapt during the games themselves, just like Savior vs. Bisu.
Only difference is that Stork was even MORE unfortunate than Savior, because he had less time to prepare for this map. Playing on Proleague AND MSL AND OSL is too much for anyone to take in this day and age.
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The series wasn't that bad. And we all KNOW Iris is a very timing oriented player. Why the fuck would he go for a late-game macro fest vs Stork (even tho Iris himself has good macro).
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Okay Now GGPlay will rape everyone still breathing...
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On July 06 2007 03:46 SuperJongMan wrote:GGPlay vs Iris would be awesome for Iris to win a match. Iris played only one Z in a bo series, Savior. I'd like to see how he does vs GGplay. Iris ~_~ Timing Master. UGH. I wish Stork's probe in game 3 and game 2 ~_~ ughhhhh Show nested quote +On July 06 2007 03:45 xM(Z wrote: 2 facts > 1 gate; the hell was stork thinking Maybe he doesn't play with map hack genius. Christ, idiots are gonna be hating on Stork but there were some unlucky factors and the fact Iris came with a vendetta. Stork never got a probe into Iris' base... It's really quite unfortunate. i know he could not scout iris but the first thing a newb (me) learns is that if you don't know what your oponent is doing you play it safe. i hate no one, i'm just enjoying the pwnage
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On July 06 2007 03:52 alffla wrote: why is everyone saying flash is going to RAPE ggplay -_-a
On July 06 2007 03:54 SeBASTa wrote: Okay Now GGPlay will rape everyone still breathing...
See? The Chinese know what's up.
GGplay FTW.
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Because flash is a better ID than GGplay -_-;;
Seriously though, a lot of people here get the wrong impression of a player based on certain performances and stats (ie. that oshibori guy who keeps running his mouth like he knows shit).
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On July 06 2007 03:53 oshibori_probe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2007 03:45 xM(Z wrote: 2 facts > 1 gate; the hell was stork thinking Iris took a risk and it payed off, only the finals will tell how wrong or lucky the TL.net bandwagon is. Iris has been good for a really long time, this isn't a bandwagon, not anymore than Stork is.
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On July 06 2007 03:52 Mynock wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2007 03:50 kNyTTyM wrote: finally I am happy over something that happened in OSL. How did we arrive to a PvP finals in MSL? -Mynock
What?
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On July 06 2007 03:56 SuperJongMan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2007 03:52 alffla wrote: why is everyone saying flash is going to RAPE ggplay -_-a Show nested quote +On July 06 2007 03:54 SeBASTa wrote: Okay Now GGPlay will rape everyone still breathing... See? The Chinese know what's up. GGplay FTW.
hahaha
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On July 06 2007 03:53 oshibori_probe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2007 03:45 xM(Z wrote: 2 facts > 1 gate; the hell was stork thinking Incase you havent noticed progamers tend to prepare 1 build for an entire match. Usually they have 1 or 2 strats that differ tho, and depending on the player its either a cheese or something less common. Look at when Bisu took out Nal Ra, purely out of build order, this is no different. Also note that it is still safer to play a build you know more rather than out of the blue change from the strats uve practiced 12+ hours a day to strats you havent. Iris took a risk and it payed off, only the finals will tell how wrong or lucky the TL.net bandwagon is. actualy stork took a risk (by expanding) and lost
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On July 06 2007 03:56 xM(Z wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2007 03:46 SuperJongMan wrote:GGPlay vs Iris would be awesome for Iris to win a match. Iris played only one Z in a bo series, Savior. I'd like to see how he does vs GGplay. Iris ~_~ Timing Master. UGH. I wish Stork's probe in game 3 and game 2 ~_~ ughhhhh On July 06 2007 03:45 xM(Z wrote: 2 facts > 1 gate; the hell was stork thinking Maybe he doesn't play with map hack genius. Christ, idiots are gonna be hating on Stork but there were some unlucky factors and the fact Iris came with a vendetta. Stork never got a probe into Iris' base... It's really quite unfortunate. i know he could not scout iris but the first thing a newb (me) learns is that if you don't know what your oponent is doing you play it safe. i hate no one, i'm just enjoying the pwnage
That only applies to the 3rd game, and imo I can understand Stork's reasoning for thinking Iris won't 2 fact. The location simply isn't the best 2 fact location as mid game becomes terribly difficult in that base lay out.
Then again, he 2 fact vultured Reach from fuckin Xenosky ~__~_~_~~_~_~_~ who knows what Iris is thinking. He is simply thinking "kill" "kill" "kill" in his head.
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Lol @ "Iris has been good", yeah only his TvT and his TvZ againts Savior otherwise this was pathetic play by Stork. This series deos not prove anything at all, and it definitely deos not prove Iris is better then Stork. About GGplay, you guys seriously underestimate his TvZ. He raped Casy, Nada, Hwasin with a ferocity unseen since Savior's domination era. Yeah Flash's TvZ is good, but he is going to have a hell of a time againts GGplay, who's on fire right now.
Also perhaps Stork did not want to be in both OSL and MSL finals because it would be too much for him? Just a thought to consider.
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I think Stork didn't think Iris had the balls to 2 fact him that much. Then Iris just teabagged Stork. UNFORTUNATE. I still can't get over my dissappointment.
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On July 06 2007 04:01 Duffybeer wrote:Also perhaps Stork did not want to be in both OSL and MSL finals because it would be too much for him? Just a thought to consider.
Don't ever consider something as stupid as a progamer giving up a match "on purpose". It will save you a lot of ridicule later down the road.
-Mynock
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On July 06 2007 04:01 Duffybeer wrote: This series deos not prove anything at all well if you beat someone 3-0 in whichever way... i think it proves something
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On July 06 2007 04:01 Duffybeer wrote: Lol Iris has been good, yeah only his TvT and his TvZ againts Savior otherwise this was pathetic play by Stork. This series deos not prove anything at all, and it definitely deos not prove Iris is better then Stork. About GGplay, you guys seriously underestimate his TvZ. He raped Casy, Nada, Hwasin with a ferocity unseen since Savior's domination era. Yeah Flash's TvZ is good, but he is going to have a hell of a time againts GGplay, who's on fire right now.
Also perhaps Stork did not want to be in both OSL and MSL finals because it would be too much for him? Just a thought to consider.
Actually GGPlay tied with Nada iirc
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