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Casper...
Liberia4948 Posts
always dude scores the ball, with or without legs | ||
tiffany
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[GiTM]-Ace
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Servolisk
United States5241 Posts
I'm not to sure what his condition is. Some diehard Sacto fans (the ones that aren't idiotically wanting him traded to appease an imagined Peja feud) tell me he will regain his post game. I don't know what there is to back that up (if anyone knows the situation in full tell me please), but if it is true I'd take him over Garnett and Duncan any day. He still has great hands, there isn't a big man in the league close to him in ball handling even now. | ||
ejai63
United States2101 Posts
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Servolisk
United States5241 Posts
I also think Duncan is best in the game now, though I voted Stoudemire because Amare has been dominating and really deserves it (edit: more than Duncan, he was leading the league in scoring until he had an off night and Kobe score 40). I wasn't going to put Duncan for center, even if he could play it. I don't think he was on the ballot for center anyways, he's a forward. I voted for Dikembe because I like him. I definitely think he deserves it over Yao, who will go. And I think he is the better center for the rockets, but the rockets are trying to develop Yao for the future. Dikembe is #2 in blocks per 48 miuntes, would be #1 if Kirilenko hadn't been so freaky with the blocks so far. As for the Pistons. First, tell me who is a better PF than Rasheed in the East. For PG, Billups has been playing at an all star level, easily, so has Hamilton, arguably some at the position have played better, but I think they play the positions as good as anyone. They are not on teams like other guys where they are the main option for every play. They play smart and unselfishly. I didn't want to vote for an all-star team made up of people playing out of position, and with similar styles isntead of complimentary team styles. Plus... I'm from Detroit. | ||
Sadist
United States6980 Posts
On November 27 2004 21:07 Servolisk wrote: Webber over Duncan and KG if he still could be athletic at the post. I didn't say in his current condition. I also didn't say Vince was as good as Kobe. He is a bit worse in shooting, and not dependable/clutch, but I think if he wasn't not trying and not getting minutes, he could equal Kobe in scoring. I also think Duncan is best in the game now, though I voted Stoudemire because Amare has been dominating and really deserves it (edit: more than Duncan, he was leading the league in scoring until he had an off night and Kobe score 40). I wasn't going to put Duncan for center, even if he could play it. I don't think he was on the ballot for center anyways, he's a forward. I voted for Dikembe because I like him. I definitely think he deserves it over Yao, who will go. And I think he is the better center for the rockets, but the rockets are trying to develop Yao for the future. Dikembe is #2 in blocks per 48 miuntes, would be #1 if Kirilenko hadn't been so freaky with the blocks so far. As for the Pistons. First, tell me who is a better PF than Rasheed in the East. For PG, Billups has been playing at an all star level, easily, so has Hamilton, arguably some at the position have played better, but I think they play the positions as good as anyone. They are not on teams like other guys where they are the main option for every play. They play smart and unselfishly. I didn't want to vote for an all-star team made up of people playing out of position, and with similar styles isntead of complimentary team styles. Plus... I'm from Detroit. starting is based on fan voting No way will the pistons start 3 people ;d Iverson would get it by far over hamilton and billups, rasheed MIGHT start but i really doubt it since the fans vote ;d Im from Lansing btw, and ROFL about dikembe over yao I mean my favorite all star game was the one a few years back when iverson dikembe and marbury led the east to a comefrom behind win in the 4th quarter, but come on. Dikembe is like 36 and cant jump at all anymore | ||
Servolisk
United States5241 Posts
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Servolisk
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KOFgokuon
United States14885 Posts
also, there is NO way you can have 3 all stars from a team that's 6-7, hell keith van horn is STATISTICALLY having a way better year than rasheed is, as are harrington and antoine walker. would i rather have them on my team? probably not, but right now they're having better years. also, right now i'd take redd over hamilton and wade over billups, to each is own, if u like your pistons you go ahead, i'm still rooting for iguodola for rookie of the year (unlikely) and korver for most improved player (possible) | ||
Servolisk
United States5241 Posts
Al Harrington is a small forward. I haven't been watching Walker and the Hawks (and really, who would want to?), but just judging from his numbers and his past performance, I'd take a struggling Rasheed over him any day. | ||
ejai63
United States2101 Posts
In the east, Dwyane wade has been playing better than hamilton and billups combined, your ridiculous bias notwithstanding. iverson is a complete team player when he actually has teammates who dont suck - see the olympics qualifiers and the olympics. check antawn jamison's numbers and tell me he doesnt deserve to start. even if you disagree, he's a better choice than sheed, whom i love | ||
Servolisk
United States5241 Posts
No way has Dwayne Wade out performed Billups and Hamilton combined. Look at the stat leaders for PPG and at number 14 you find Hamilton, and everyone above him has been the first option and had the ball way more. Hamilton has been totally solid. Wade is a Shaq beneficiary. Like Kobe and Penny were. Look at Wade before Shaq came, look at Penny after Shaq left. As I was trying to say earlier, Wade is a scorer, but he wouldn't be able to execute the same way in an all star game. Billups fits much better with the team. He has been playing his position nearly perfectly, a few games aside. He hits the open and clutch shots, which Wade struggles with, he passes better, he penetrates differently than Wade, but just as well. Antawn Jamison is a SF. I know he is a great player. His great numbers don't surprise me. However, since I don't get Wizards games this season and don't see him outside a rare highlight, or really want to vote people out of position, I don't consider voting for him. I am also sure Rasheed would have similar numbers if he were on the Wizards. Great scoring on bad teams is pretty meaningless, and that is all I have to judge him by. | ||
Casper...
Liberia4948 Posts
duncan is the best bigman since olajuwon who was the best bigman since russell | ||
Casper...
Liberia4948 Posts
thx for discrediting yourself and saving me the time | ||
SurG
Russian Federation798 Posts
Webber and Kings are sad to watch nowadays. Ever since Vlade got old and Webber lost his explosiveness, they are just shadows of the team that used to play best game ever since I can remember. No matter how consistent he hits that jump shot (and it's not that consistent), when he doesn't drive to the basket they can't create holes in defense - no backcuts, no confused defense. Static defense is enough against Webber nowadays. I hope they can restore that speed and chemistry they had, but I doubt it. Also I cannot understand what the fuck managers there are thinking. They lost all the depth and talent they had on the roster. B.Miller just doesn't add up to all the losses they had. | ||
[GiTM]-Ace
United States4935 Posts
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Kobayashi
Portugal1970 Posts
The Carter issue: well, he's better than Kobe for the simple reason that Kobe doesn't understand the game of basketball (5v5 not 1v5) and will probably spend the rest of his carrer doing what he does now, scoring 30+ points every game in a team that will be happy to reach the playoffs (yes, I know Carter is in the same situation now, what I mean is that Kobe wants to be in this kind of situation, making him an idiot and not a good player by any perspective). Comparing him to TMac: wft.. have u people forgotten they used to play together? O_o who was the team leader back then? TMac improved a lot since he left the team, Carter always was the best player and if you see him playing in a team that helps him (ie, a team that doesn't allow the oposition to defend Carter and forget there's more guys in court) you'll see his numbers improve too. And Servolisk I won't bother reading any of your posts since u said Yao has no skill, I'll just ignore them and save my time. | ||
[GiTM]-Ace
United States4935 Posts
On November 28 2004 05:17 Kobayashi wrote: WTF??? dude carter isnt close to kobe at all lol.or T-Mac either.Kobe and eddie jones used ot play 2gether and eddie started back then do u see ppl saying jones is better then kobe.the only thing u were right about is Yao DOES have skill.I'll just answer here to most of the posts since I haven't been around and won't bother responding to everyone one. The Carter issue: well, he's better than Kobe for the simple reason that Kobe doesn't understand the game of basketball (5v5 not 1v5) and will probably spend the rest of his carrer doing what he does now, scoring 30+ points every game in a team that will be happy to reach the playoffs (yes, I know Carter is in the same situation now, what I mean is that Kobe wants to be in this kind of situation, making him an idiot and not a good player by any perspective). Comparing him to TMac: wft.. have u people forgotten they used to play together? O_o who was the team leader back then? TMac improved a lot since he left the team, Carter always was the best player and if you see him playing in a team that helps him (ie, a team that doesn't allow the oposition to defend Carter and forget there's more guys in court) you'll see his numbers improve too. And Servolisk I won't bother reading any of your posts since u said Yao has no skill, I'll just ignore them and save my time. | ||
Kobayashi
Portugal1970 Posts
On November 28 2004 07:55 [GiTM]-Ace wrote: Show nested quote + WTF??? dude carter isnt close to kobe at all lol.or T-Mac either.Kobe and eddie jones used ot play 2gether and eddie started back then do u see ppl saying jones is better then kobe.the only thing u were right about is Yao DOES have skill.On November 28 2004 05:17 Kobayashi wrote: I'll just answer here to most of the posts since I haven't been around and won't bother responding to everyone one. The Carter issue: well, he's better than Kobe for the simple reason that Kobe doesn't understand the game of basketball (5v5 not 1v5) and will probably spend the rest of his carrer doing what he does now, scoring 30+ points every game in a team that will be happy to reach the playoffs (yes, I know Carter is in the same situation now, what I mean is that Kobe wants to be in this kind of situation, making him an idiot and not a good player by any perspective). Comparing him to TMac: wft.. have u people forgotten they used to play together? O_o who was the team leader back then? TMac improved a lot since he left the team, Carter always was the best player and if you see him playing in a team that helps him (ie, a team that doesn't allow the oposition to defend Carter and forget there's more guys in court) you'll see his numbers improve too. And Servolisk I won't bother reading any of your posts since u said Yao has no skill, I'll just ignore them and save my time. dude,I'll never consider Kobe a good player, I stated why and I won't argue about him. About Tmac, well...I can understand your opinion based on his numbers, but I think their are deceiving. | ||
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