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Braavos36362 Posts
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Sweetness, I'll tune in for a bit.
You guys are doing a phenomenal job.
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no replays from 2 first games ? I only see links to winners/losers/final games.
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On May 04 2008 23:24 sAAvior wrote: no replays from 2 first games ? I only see links to winners/losers/final games. They just started, I think.
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Now TSL has started, are we allowed to know the sponsor now?
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Woot! Just woke up to this. Terrific job guys. Thank you!
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The radio is down :[ What will i do without Artosis awesome voice :[
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On May 04 2008 23:52 Woyn wrote: Now TSL has started, are we allowed to know the sponsor now?
TSL is only Ro16 and above, isn't it?
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yeah this is like the duel tourney ain't it?
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would be cool for some IRC channel or something
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" zealots through like butter" LOL gogo commentary
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CA10824 Posts
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lol " maybe we should go to a replay... people may still be listening to this" lololOLOLol
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Idra vs Hanningan
+ Show Spoiler +Idra played so safe the 2 games just a slooooooowwwww push the first game and a faster push the second but anyway Hanningan had no answer to counter that .....
Kwak vs Dinot
there is only one game !
+ Show Spoiler +Kwak had an early advantage but he kept waisting his units......
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hannigan shennagians ha ha ha ha ha
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Hannigan = DT noob, and got owned.
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What happened to group D? Did Idra win?
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Something is up with DinOt? From the irc: [19:00] <vGl-RaGe> u there? [19:00] <vGl-RaGe> myMYM|SoHee [19:00] <vGl-RaGe> who is organizing mym sc team [19:03] <vGl-RaGe> MYM|Army [19:03] <vGl-RaGe> can you get MAX? [19:03] <vGl-RaGe> theres an incident with DinOt
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On May 05 2008 02:38 p4fn2w wrote: What happened to group D? Did Idra win?
lag reschueduled
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I'm so confused -.-
What actually happened/is happening with the Idra/Dinot situation? The OP indicates it was rescheduled. But then some people (and this was what Chill said on the stream a while ago) say that Dinot>Idra.
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(replays will be uploaded after Group is over due to player request)
I don't think players' request should be respected. In most competetive games which require preparation (like starcraft) all tournament games are public (chess, go comes to mind). My guess is that some players don't like the perspective of being studied by their opponents during the group. I think giving them right to hide the replays is bad for sport and spectators.
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On May 05 2008 03:20 sAAvior wrote:I don't think players' request should be respected. In most competetive games which require preparation (like starcraft) all tournament games are public (chess, go comes to mind). My guess is that some players don't like the perspective of being studied by their opponents during the group. I think giving them right to hide the replays is bad for sport and spectators.
I kind of agree. Same rules should apply for everyone and every group...
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
you're absolutely correct imo!
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what a surprise horror cheesing both games so far
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Who's commenting with Chill on radio 2? I assume Rage or Psy Reaver, since those are the only 2 on the commentator list I haven't heard before?
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Chill and Psy Reaver on R2
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haha artosis is a great caster
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WASSSSSSSSSSSUP
who is doing the commentary right now
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artosis is doing the draco vs horror commentary
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i thought he was saying whore
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hes pretty damn good at this. him and day 9 would be an awesome commentary combo
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Don't forget Nony, or possibly even Vaul because it never gets old hearing two different accents.
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On May 05 2008 04:08 BigBalls wrote: i thought he was saying whore
Same. I still hear 'whore' instead of horror.
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Yeah, neither one is working at the moment.
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On May 05 2008 04:14 LucasWoJ wrote:Same. I still hear 'whore' instead of horror.
Either way's fine
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whats up with dinot vs idra and with ret vs castro (why scheduled?)
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On May 05 2008 04:13 Showtime! wrote: Don't forget Nony, or possibly even Vaul because it never gets old hearing two different accents.
its just that day 9 is my favorite ever doing commentary i visited him at his college for the first bisu vs savior match where bisu 3-0'ed him. he took us to a classroom and put it on a projector so it was huge on the front chalkboard. after every game he drew a little map on the board and explained what happened it was awesome.
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United States11390 Posts
On May 05 2008 04:18 Get.Midikem wrote: whats up with dinot vs idra and with ret vs castro (why scheduled?) Ret vs Castro was rescheduled due to lag.
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Heh heh
Yeah bigballa, Sean is like that. I guess you're right. We should make it a family thing.
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On May 05 2008 04:24 BigBalls wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2008 04:13 Showtime! wrote: Don't forget Nony, or possibly even Vaul because it never gets old hearing two different accents. its just that day 9 is my favorite ever doing commentary i visited him at his college for the first bisu vs savior match where bisu 3-0'ed him. he took us to a classroom and put it on a projector so it was huge on the front chalkboard. after every game he drew a little map on the board and explained what happened it was awesome.
LOL
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On May 05 2008 04:24 BigBalls wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2008 04:13 Showtime! wrote: Don't forget Nony, or possibly even Vaul because it never gets old hearing two different accents. its just that day 9 is my favorite ever doing commentary i visited him at his college for the first bisu vs savior match where bisu 3-0'ed him. he took us to a classroom and put it on a projector so it was huge on the front chalkboard. after every game he drew a little map on the board and explained what happened it was awesome.
omg, that sounds incredibly baller if that really happened
watching bisu 3-0 savior on big screen with post-game commentary by day9
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Ah OP got updated a bit.
Draco vs Cloud! Retired vs Cookie Monster! Who could possibly win?
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Unfortunately not
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Artosis
United States2135 Posts
oh damn haha the horror vs draco games were reallllllllly nice i think as far as casting goes.
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So is there going to be more casting tonight? I just got home and i missed the cast yesterday . I really wanna hear Artosis cast everyone seems to enjoy it .
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just out of curiosity how did they settle on how to control for that the other eSTRO players dont play for idra?
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On May 05 2008 05:10 Blue wrote: just out of curiosity how did they settle on how to control for that the other eSTRO players dont play for idra?
checking hotkeys maybe. But you would know if a eSTRO terran like UpMagic or Really playes.. without a doubt :p
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I'm sure Idra learned his lesson from before with the Assem fiasco. At this stage in his career it shouldn't even cross his mind.
+ Show Spoiler +
;/
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On May 05 2008 05:29 Showtime! wrote:I'm sure Idra learned his lesson from before with the Assem fiasco. At this stage in his career it shouldn't even cross his mind. + Show Spoiler +;/
what was the fiasco about? maybe the dinot loss makes him tempted : )
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Assem played for Idra in some tourney a while back. Someone checked the hotkeys and they got caught.
Old news.
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On May 05 2008 05:02 Artosis wrote: oh damn haha the horror vs draco games were reallllllllly nice i think as far as casting goes.
you were doing great, are you going to do the next stage too?
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I think draco made some bad decisions playing horror. Looking at horrors previous reps and interview should have told draco right away what was coming and he could have defended the cheese easily and found that super sneaky expo.
The games were very entertaining though!
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Damn..Horror almost won both games too. It all ended the same too lol, thought he would learn his lesson after that 2nd game on blue storm.
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Artosis
United States2135 Posts
On May 05 2008 06:00 BigBalls wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2008 05:02 Artosis wrote: oh damn haha the horror vs draco games were reallllllllly nice i think as far as casting goes. you were doing great, are you going to do the next stage too?
thx. i think ill be helping out further. its of course up to the tsl staff but im pretty sure ill be doing more as it moves on.
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Artosis for TSL president!
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Yeah Artosis i've really enjoyed your casts both today and yesterday. Keep up the good work.
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On May 05 2008 06:19 Artosis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2008 06:00 BigBalls wrote:On May 05 2008 05:02 Artosis wrote: oh damn haha the horror vs draco games were reallllllllly nice i think as far as casting goes. you were doing great, are you going to do the next stage too? thx. i think ill be helping out further. its of course up to the tsl staff but im pretty sure ill be doing more as it moves on.
yeah thx your commentary was perfect. I hope you will cast all of the terran involving matches in the next round. (Won't be too many ).
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I'm still disappointed I lost that bad v Draco. However this week I'll work hard on my play so I won't lose again to anyone. I'm very determined to have a good placement in TSL Finals. Gj to everyone who made it
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ya artosis is a really good commentator I hope he does the ro16
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
-removed cause he threatened to kick me from Media-
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On May 05 2008 06:31 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Did you guys hear that asshole artosis talking about the admins? Kid didnt know the vent was live roflflflfllf
aye, don't realy know what happend, but he wasn't happy about it lol
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
this tourney is racist againts chileans and swedish.
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Artosis
United States2135 Posts
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
ya'll be hearin from The Bear. Attorney at law.
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
you wouldn't. They dehumanized you so low that this is all incomprehensible. Just trust me. I am fighting for your human rights.
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Fuck..I wish Horror made it
So little terrans..and he seemed pretty decent too.
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On May 05 2008 06:48 ._. wrote:Fuck..I wish Horror made it So little terrans..and he seemed pretty decent too. To me it seemed more like he did something cheesy every game to have a chance to advance.
But at least he produced some really cool games, so I'm glad he played
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Not sure if we need to spoiler in this thread, so I put my whole post in it.
+ Show Spoiler +Horror should have beaten Draco in the 3rd game, for sure. He seems to consistently not make enough factories and push too slowly. If he would push faster/not be as hesitant he would have owned Draco pretty badly. In the 3rd game he could have had 15+ factories but he only had 8. I was surprised he lost the 3rd game after watching it. He also lost to recalls twice and should have taken some lessons from the first loss, and defended against it a little better, maybe turret wall + mines in base. On May 05 2008 03:38 Aux1 wrote: what a surprise horror cheesing both games so far I don't think it's that cheesy, he does what he needs to do to win and it works because it's a counter to what Draco does...2 gate goon wall break -> vultures behind, fast nexus -> 2 fac 3 tank vult attack, etc. It's not like you're supposed to not exploit someone's weakness for some sort of misguided concept of "honor."
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yeah horror quit that game wiht 8.5k minerals and 2.5k gas. That had to hurt. He wasn't reproducing supplies until it hit him that he was actually 179/150 and realized "Oh shit wait I need to replenish those too!":
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really looking forward to castro's games he seemed really solid against zpux
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This recall was pretty sweet in the draco vs horror game
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Excello.IefNaij advances to TSL
<3
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So Idra is out of TSL or just lost to Dinot and goes through to play Hannigan? Would suck to lose another Terran.
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what is it with everybody and terran whining its not like it has to be 33.3 t, 33.3 p and 33,3 z for a tour to be fun
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Did Dinot play idra or not?
I'm confused
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
Dinot > Kwak MU1 Hannigan < Idra MU2 Dinot > Idra Winners Hannigan > Kwak Losers Hannigan < Idra Losers final
Imright?
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No clue KizZ you tell us!
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I don't know
The OP still says TBD on the idra-dinot games, and I didn't hear any stream
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I'm really amazed at the organization of TSL. Really, keep up the good work guys.
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On May 05 2008 08:16 KizZBG wrote: Dinot > Kwak MU1 Hannigan < Idra MU2 Dinot > Idra Winners Hannigan > Kwak Losers Hannigan < Idra Losers final
Imright? This is the impression I got from listening to one of the streams, but I remember not being very certain of the outcome.
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On May 05 2008 08:06 Blue wrote: what is it with everybody and terran whining its not like it has to be 33.3 t, 33.3 p and 33,3 z for a tour to be fun I'm a Terran player, I like seeing T win. The less T players left, the lower chance of seeing a T win. Make sense?
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I remember hearing a cast of idra vs hannigan, so I dunno.
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That was some of the worst play i've seen by idra. He must have been distracted or sick or something. I'm glad he was able to pull through i'm looking forward to seeing him play in the TSL
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great job idra
keep it up and win the entire thing please
1 2 3 Greg Fields Fighting!
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GJ Stelok, draco! gogo my fav is mondi though
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On May 05 2008 10:06 Mercer wrote: That was some of the worst play i've seen by idra. He must have been distracted or sick or something. I'm glad he was able to pull through i'm looking forward to seeing him play in the TSL not easy to play your best when you get allined in lag every game but one.
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United States10774 Posts
Cloud vs Alf on blue storm was SICK
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Blame it on living in the Estro house in Korea.
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+ Show Spoiler +Dinot's allins were pretty clever, all things considered. He made use of the lag, I guess. But daaaaymn, Brat Ok did great. Nony/Cloud/Draco/Brat Ok advancing was the best I could hope for .
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BRAT_OK really impressed me in his games against Nony. His micro was impressive.in the first game, and his dropship play was sick in Zodiac (with 179 APM no less). I haven't heard much about this guy before, who is he? He's only 13-11 on gg.net, been really inactive until recently, but beat some big names before that.
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whew really exciting day imo
some great matches
now is there gonna be a whole selection process like in osl?
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On May 05 2008 13:12 HaXxorIzed wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Dinot's allins were pretty clever, all things considered. He made use of the lag, I guess. But daaaaymn, Brat Ok did great. Nony/Cloud/Draco/Brat Ok advancing was the best I could hope for .
All-ins? Dinot beat Kwak 2-0 in pretty straightforward macro games and beat Idra in the first game with macro play as well. He all-in'ed with the speedling rush in the final game but I think that was more because he saw an opportunity, and that was one game.
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BRAT_OK is pretty badass. I'm hoping he or Idra wins the TSL for the race that deserves the win (terran!!!!)
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Must have been thinking of some of the TSL ladder games involving him I saw, then.
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Hmm, how come I don't see any all-ins from Dinot? Is the game on Blue Storm where Dinot goes a 3 hatch lair build the all-in? What was all-in about it? His 3 hatch? The lair? The good amount of drones? Should he have built sunkens, therefore removing any offensive power whatsoever, instead so this can be considered standard?
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bahh temujin lost wanted to see more of his PvZ. seemed to have played well though, all 2-1.
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Busy so I couldn't watch it lives. 2nd day replays are yet again so much better than the 1st day. The quality of the games in Group B was so awesome. It felt I was watching Korean semi-pro replays.
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Brat_Ok is so good I'm glad he passed the group.
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Comments on Group E:
Russian TvT is sooo good. BVG.Tarson had a huge advantage against RoX.Brat on Longinus yet Brat came back to win it. It helped that Brat had 2 double gas expansions and Tarson's timing on the BC was off.
NonY's pvp is a monster. Played ToT)iNfeRnaL twice and won 2-0 both times! Not only that, each game was 1 sided rape.
EDIT: or ToT)iNfeRnaL's pvp was just very bad.
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Comments on Group D:
What happen game 1 on Longinus between Idra vs Dinot???!!! Idra with 2 m&m armies, I thought 1 would be hunting expos with another 1 just defending. It just allowed Dinot to take double gas expansion then eventually the map so GG. Looked sluggish compared to his R1 game against ToT)Dashwriter where he just constantly pressured.
I don't know NT.hanniGan, but his Terran was really good. Too bad he didn't pass his group
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To me it looked like he underestimated Dinot, as in he thought he was much worse than he was and thus likely to go for an allin counter. Idra wanted to counter this by keeping an entire army waiting for him but since Dinot apparantly is really (really) good he was sure of himself and didnt need the allin, making Idra's descion look strange.
Anyway, I for one am happy that he pulled through in the end His micro looked spectacular at times.
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On May 05 2008 03:20 sAAvior wrote:I don't think players' request should be respected. In most competetive games which require preparation (like starcraft) all tournament games are public (chess, go comes to mind). My guess is that some players don't like the perspective of being studied by their opponents during the group. I think giving them right to hide the replays is bad for sport and spectators.
Korean Starleagues don't release replays period. They allow VODs, but they aren't the same as replays. With replays, you can see all the players timing and builds. Tournament replays may be something that the foreign community will be have to move away from if it wants to be more "professional." Notice in WCG, pros don't even play like their true self other than the lower competition. With VODs only, people are force to watch the VODs and its commentary, production value, & commercial while it sort of brainwash the viewers
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Group G:
Group of Reaver micro!!!
IefNaij won his group convincingly.
Temujin vs Stelok was a close series, but Strelok had an early lead in the 3rd game and kept it til the end. Game 2 Temujin's recall fail to do enough damage so GG. Not sure if it was that game, but I think Temujin had a huge lead, but lost the advantage by throwing away units on Blue Storm.
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IefNaij pulled off a pretty nasty move in his third game against Temujin. It takes place around 10:15-10:40. He sends a single DT to Temujin's natural. Temujin doesn''t have detection yet, so he runs all the probes to his main.+ Show Spoiler +Just then, a shuttle arrives with a reaver. + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + Ouch.
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Nice screenshots qrs, I think I missed that reaver when I checked the rep lol (when I got so many replays to watch at once I kinda watch them quick). I think JF have the best reaver control outside korea, what do u guys think?
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JF's is pretty good, though I think Nony has excellent reaver control as well. I'd guess that those two have the top reavers, but I haven't seen some tosses' (like Draco or Leg) play.
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can someone clear up Infernal vs Tarson for me?
+ Show Spoiler + results say he won 2-1 but: in game 1 on bluestorm infernal leaves before both maxed armies clash in game 2 on bluestorm infernal leaves in game 3 on zodiac it looks like infernal won
is there something wrong with the reps? or is game 2 a re of game 1 and game 1 is really missing?
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