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Dreamer beats Stork tonight!
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rA and Stork are going to tear shit up.
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Stork is the favorite I'd say, but I want Ra to beat stork Either way I think both stork and Ra to qualify, unless orion has gotten suprisingly better. But its PvP so Mujuk could win as well.
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I have the feeling that orion will make an upset, he has the advantage of trainning only against protoss
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Ok I'll report
Red P Stork at 9
Yellow P Mujak at 12
Mujak doing a safe tech build. gate pylon pylon gas
Stork going for a normal tech build. Mujak adds second gate.
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Stork getting range before second gate. Mujak starting range as well. Stork gets a fast robo in favor of a second gate.
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Hoping for Stork and Nal_rA gogo~
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they just said sth about wcg :D
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Stork adds his second gate after. 2 zeals and 3 goons advancing on storks 3 goons. Mujak has added a robo of his own now. 2 zs and 5 goons moving up storks ramp!! Hes in trouble! He pulls probes but 2 zealts and a goon still alive! 2 goons on there way!
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Stork in disbelief as he loses a shit load of probes! reaver finally out! But 3 goons take out the shuttle and reaver. Stork GGs..yep gotta love pvp, anything can happen
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stork gg's
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Interest, Mujuk's build seem to be an EXACT counter to storks fast range fast robo build. Mujuk had perfect timing.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
fyi, mujuk raped the living shit out of pusan in PSL 1/1
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On September 29 2007 18:45 ii.blitzkrieg wrote:stork gg's Thanks for your help. Really.
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Oh man... I never voted a Stork game right, though.
NaDa < Stork, voted NaDa MujuK > Stork, voted Stork
--a I hope he atleast advances
Did The_Marine got banned for saying haha stork lost?^^
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i lost exactly like this on iccup yesterday =(
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Completely Stork's fault for not matching Mujuk's second gateway in time, deciding to put down a robotics facility instead.... tisk tisk
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If Orion wins the next one Stork/Ra will have to fight each other for elimination!!
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
if mujuk wins his game against ra (if ra wins that is) i am officially a mujuk fan
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first free and now this...what is going on tonight -.-
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Probably temp banned for being a useless one liner poster
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The_Marine was just Temp banned for 1 week by PoP.
That account was created on 2005-03-27 08:34:03 and had 21 posts.
Reason: Stop posting useless oneliners.
Lol I swear I didnt check first
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On September 29 2007 18:52 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Probably temp banned for being a useless one liner poster
Has to be a new record to be banned after posting 21 comments.. (offcourse I don't count the 1 post TL.net flamer..)
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sigh...I really hope Stork makes it past this round. It would just feel wrong without him.
Cmon Ra avenge Stork plz =p
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I'm sure he can beat orion. Just depends on if he is fortunate in his other pvp(s?).
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blue storm ra bottom left orion top right
cheese incoming from ra
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Wow Orion seems to be really popular already judging by scream volume.
Orion Z at 1 Ra P at 7
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Orion goes pool first while Ra builds a pylon at Orion's nat. Now a forge.
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What's he up too now
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LOL. Ra has build a proxy pylon/forge in the zerg choke lol
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Orion looks way too nervous. :/
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Orion should just counter with lings and Ra's screwed.
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Wow,... fans going really crazy about Nal_rA, lol!
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wow nice cannon placement by rA . pylon and forge squeezes the cannon in between the geyser. gateway under that.
pylon and cannon by the main mineralline aswell.
He has this figured out.
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Lol awesome. Ra Walled in a cannon with the gas/pylon/forge perfectly. He now starts a gateway using the same proxy! lol. Here comes the lings cannon is in! Lings won get it lol. Ra has a cannon in his min line too, hes safe from lings. Orion starts an exansion at the min only. Sick build from ra.
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This group has three very good pvp players. It will be interesting to see who will not make it. Orion can beat Ra imo. Go go Ra
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Second cannon started at choke and at his main. A 2nd pylon at the zerg choke as well. Orion's min only is done. Orion has a hydra den completed. 3rd cannon and 2nd gate started at the choke!
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rA adds another pylon right outside Orions entrance. Orion has a hatch @ 3.
3 cannons and 2 gateways at orions nat at the moment.
orion has hydras den.
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lol ra
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4th cannon up now. 2 hydras are out and try to take the 4th cannon out as it warps but some cannons are in range and the hydras retreat from ras 4 zealots. 5 and 6th cannon up for ra as his 5 zealots pressure the min only! Hydras move out but quicky run back.
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Absolutely unpredictable, Stork got crushed by a great Mujuk build and now this.
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rA is doing his best to take out Orions expo.. and will manage to do it any minute now leavign orion with one hatch in main only.
orion masses up hydras while rA waprs in additional pylons at the proxy.
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Lol such a beautiful build from ra. His zealots pressuring/killing the other half of orions ling hydra army while a single zeal damages the zerg min only. The other half of orions army at his main are destoryed by cannons trying to break out. Brilliant by Kang Min. Zerg is completely contained by 7 cannons and has lost his min only. Ra looks like hes trying hard to hold backa laugh Ok 9th and 10th cannon started by ra at the zerg nat lol. Hes not getting out thats for sure.
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of course i mean cannons instead of pylons. rA has an impressive amount of zealots and attacks the main of orion.. Kills all the hydras and it GG!
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is awesome32247 Posts
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Ra starts his nexus and then runs over orion with 10 or so zealots GG from Orion. A masterful build from the most creative protoss to ever play the game.
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rA just smiles after the victory.
now lets hope he beats mujuk. Cant have 2 of my fav protosses fight for a ticket.
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Lol yes!! Unbelievable build by rA. Kang Min, you're my hero!
Now to crush Mujuk......
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HAHAHA. This was awesome.
Sad thing is, we might not see Stork vs rA.
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United States7488 Posts
Oh Em Gee!
I love Nal_rA, that build was genious! Such an entertaining game.
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Beautiful play by rA.
Please win vs Mujuk!
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On September 29 2007 19:12 Matoo- wrote: HAHAHA. This was awesome.
Sad thing is, we might not see Stork vs rA.
I'm fine with that, I want both to advance.
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You know what they really need in korea. More anti smoking ads...
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flower toss strikes again!
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imho Orion should have gone mass speedlings, Ra would have been forced to defend both places heavily
why tech to hydras? not like ra was going sairs (he had an OL over his base)
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Hmm this show is called "I am Your Pet".
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giving the fact that the second in this group plays savior next, I think that only first place counts here)
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I think Orion was really put off by not being able to expand to his natural. He looked kinda nervous and it didn't seem as if he was comfortable trying to counter rA's build.
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On September 29 2007 19:17 PoP wrote: imho Orion should have gone mass speedlings, Ra would have been forced to defend both places heavily
why tech to hydras? not like ra was going sairs (he had an OL over his base)
How do you think that would have worked? There were cannons between main and expansion.. mass speedlings doesn't work then because he cannot just run to bypass the cannons without losing alot of lings.
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I know this is supposed to be posted here, but since there's no game on right now, plese pm me someone with help for how to watch these games. sc2.org refuses to work for some reason (I have watched games there multiple times in the past, don't know what's wrong and I do have the latest tvants version) and trying any other alternative posted on other threads gets me nowhere =//
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On September 29 2007 19:20 G.s)NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2007 19:17 PoP wrote: imho Orion should have gone mass speedlings, Ra would have been forced to defend both places heavily
why tech to hydras? not like ra was going sairs (he had an OL over his base) How do you think that would have worked? There were cannons between main and expansion.. mass speedlings doesn't work then because he cannot just run to bypass the cannons without losing alot of lings.
He could make canons here in the first place only because Orion was losing time teching to/building hydras.
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On September 29 2007 19:21 SchOOl_VicTIm wrote: I know this is supposed to be posted here, but since there's no game on right now, plese pm me someone with help for how to watch these games. sc2.org refuses to work for some reason (I have watched games there multiple times in the past, don't know what's wrong and I do have the latest tvants version) and trying any other alternative posted on other threads gets me nowhere =//
GOMPlayer?
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On September 29 2007 19:21 SchOOl_VicTIm wrote: I know this is supposed to be posted here, but since there's no game on right now, plese pm me someone with help for how to watch these games. sc2.org refuses to work for some reason (I have watched games there multiple times in the past, don't know what's wrong and I do have the latest tvants version) and trying any other alternative posted on other threads gets me nowhere =// here) http://www.yaoyuan.com/live.php
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Nal_Ra Red P at 7
Mujak Green P at 1
Map is Loki 2 Both start pylons and gateways in their main so cheese
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I think it was the correct reaction to Nal rA's build..... I don't think he could have taken down that proxy with just lings.... especially with an unreachable cannon
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Lol Ra manages to block and kill the scouting probe with some cute probe micro.
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rA wins the battle of the probes.
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rA makes sure no probe passes as he will probably go dts.
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Mujuk is going for a 1 gate zeal fast nexus build. While ra is rushing to dts. Ra has scouted the nexus. Mujuk wont be able to scout ra. Archieves warping in.
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On September 29 2007 19:25 Wolfsnare wrote: I think it was the correct reaction to Nal rA's build..... I don't think he could have taken down that proxy with just lings.... especially with an unreachable cannon
He could have run tons of lings past the the proxy and Ra would have been forced to make lots of canons in his main as well, slowing down his proxy and forcing him to build stuff at two places.
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Mujuk just started his core (expo aswell)
rAs archive is done and core is almost done. no forge no robo. Mujuk looks fucked.
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Surely Mujuk must expect dts? he doesnt have a forge started though.
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So many asked what song they play right before the game starts, its:
Papa Roach - To Be Loved
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DT is out heading for Mujuk.
Forge is warping but i doubt he will make cannons in time.
rA starts expo @ 9.
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Ninjas time, Mujuk has realised far too late tbh.
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2nd gate in for mujuk with range started. His nexus is completely ra. Ra's dt is out! He also has 4 zs and is pumping from 1 gate. He wil probbably expand soon. Forge down for mujuk doesnt look like it will be in time! But mujuk blocks his ramp with 2 zs nd a goon. Cannon just now started at ramp! Will the dt get through!? OH ITS THROUGH! will it get the last cannon!? NOO mujuk save it barely. But loses the cannon at his back nat lol! Ra is double expanding...is that really necessary ra?
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omg mujuk defends well and tries to stop the dt at the door. Ra gets one through and the expo is fucked. attacks with all his zeals and dts,.
Mujuk did that lovely though but wont be able to keep up as rA has 2 expos against none..
robo is warping.
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Braavos36362 Posts
mujuk is so far behind now, nice job ra
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Dts all over ras base as he is double expanding, adding his 2nd and 3rd gate and getting a robo The game is basically over already.
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MaTRiX[SiN]
Sweden1282 Posts
On September 29 2007 19:27 PoP wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2007 19:25 Wolfsnare wrote: I think it was the correct reaction to Nal rA's build..... I don't think he could have taken down that proxy with just lings.... especially with an unreachable cannon He could have run tons of lings past the the proxy and Ra would have been forced to make lots of canons in his main as well, slowing down his proxy and forcing him to build stuff at two places. building cannons in your mineral line you dont need that many to stop speedlings, he built 2 this game if orion had went speedlings he'd have had to build maybe 3 or 4? not really a big deal...also if he runs by the proxy ra could just go on orions main with zealots then he either has to build sunkens+speedlings leaving him with basically no econ or be prepared to run the speedlings back losing even more of them accomplishing nothing?
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Except that he'd be slowed down even more by making all those lings, and it's not like he gain much by forcing a few extra cannons in ra's main. After all he still cannot expand.
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mujuk is grasping for straws now..
rA has 2 expos running and mujuk lost his gas.
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Here comes DT drop lolol.
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rA is adding up gateways like a madman. Mujuk tries to counter and kills some dts in the chase.
rA has goons waiting for him at the nat though.
Mujuk has support bay but rA has some cans at his expos.
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Reaver drop moving to the rear natural of ra. If mujuk kills all of ras probes there and the nexus..he may be able to come back...oh wait no. Ras dt drop easily kills the rebuild nexus of Mujuk. The drops the main taking out the only cannon tere arnd raping the probes.
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Ra has 8 gates now and 4 temps out
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Both players dropping eachother. rAs templars kills mujuks base while 2 zeals and a reavers kills some of rAs probes..
Dark templars kills some probes at mujuks main aswell..
rA adds high templars to his army. mujuk with pure goons.
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This is going to be very ugly for Mujuk
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goons/zeals/temps/archs vs goons. i think you can guess the outcome.
mujuk types out
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Clobbering time for Mujuk, above and beyond what he's already been dealt. It's Great to see rA advancing again.
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2 LOVELY builds by rA. he just surfed through those games.
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stork, please do what ra just did and advance please
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Fantastic games by Nal_rA, I really hope he makes it far, he's just too entertaining.
For the rest of the games: Stork > Orion and then he will get his revenge on Mujuk
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On September 29 2007 19:31 MaTRiX[SiN] wrote: building cannons in your mineral line you dont need that many to stop speedlings, he built 2 this game if orion had went speedlings he'd have had to build maybe 3 or 4?
But then Orion would have kept making more lings in his main and could have sandwitched the proxy to death. If Orion makes constant speedlings and Ra builds 3 canons in his main, I really don't see how he can defend a sandwitch attack on his proxy... even with a well placed canon.
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MaTRiX[SiN]
Sweden1282 Posts
On September 29 2007 19:41 PoP wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2007 19:31 MaTRiX[SiN] wrote: building cannons in your mineral line you dont need that many to stop speedlings, he built 2 this game if orion had went speedlings he'd have had to build maybe 3 or 4?
But then Orion would have kept making more lings in his main and could have sandwitched the proxy to death. If Orion makes constant speedlings and Ra builds 3 canons in his main, I really don't see how he can defend a sandwitch attack on his proxy... even with a well placed canon. ra had really good building placement by his proxy, he had first the completely blocked cannon by the gas then his 2 next cannons were blocked by his gateways.
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wow...i just don't know what to say about rA's play today...i'm stunned and amazed...
i'm glad he's back :D
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koreans sure like ice cream
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On September 29 2007 19:44 MaTRiX[SiN] wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2007 19:41 PoP wrote:On September 29 2007 19:31 MaTRiX[SiN] wrote: building cannons in your mineral line you dont need that many to stop speedlings, he built 2 this game if orion had went speedlings he'd have had to build maybe 3 or 4?
But then Orion would have kept making more lings in his main and could have sandwitched the proxy to death. If Orion makes constant speedlings and Ra builds 3 canons in his main, I really don't see how he can defend a sandwitch attack on his proxy... even with a well placed canon. ra had really good building placement by his proxy, he had first the completely blocked cannon by the gas then his 2 next cannons were blocked by his gateways.
Don't get me wrong rA's build was awesome, I just think hydras achieved absolutely nothing in that game except giving rA more time to strengthen his "wall".
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On September 29 2007 19:44 MaTRiX[SiN] wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2007 19:41 PoP wrote:On September 29 2007 19:31 MaTRiX[SiN] wrote: building cannons in your mineral line you dont need that many to stop speedlings, he built 2 this game if orion had went speedlings he'd have had to build maybe 3 or 4?
But then Orion would have kept making more lings in his main and could have sandwitched the proxy to death. If Orion makes constant speedlings and Ra builds 3 canons in his main, I really don't see how he can defend a sandwitch attack on his proxy... even with a well placed canon. ra had really good building placement by his proxy, he had first the completely blocked cannon by the gas then his 2 next cannons were blocked by his gateways.
not to mention he had zeals by his proxy, which would help protect cannons. And his main cannon was surrounded by probes. granted had he went speedlings i dont think ra couldve taken out orion's expansion, but who knows
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MaTRiX[SiN]
Sweden1282 Posts
On September 29 2007 19:47 PoP wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2007 19:44 MaTRiX[SiN] wrote:On September 29 2007 19:41 PoP wrote:On September 29 2007 19:31 MaTRiX[SiN] wrote: building cannons in your mineral line you dont need that many to stop speedlings, he built 2 this game if orion had went speedlings he'd have had to build maybe 3 or 4?
But then Orion would have kept making more lings in his main and could have sandwitched the proxy to death. If Orion makes constant speedlings and Ra builds 3 canons in his main, I really don't see how he can defend a sandwitch attack on his proxy... even with a well placed canon. ra had really good building placement by his proxy, he had first the completely blocked cannon by the gas then his 2 next cannons were blocked by his gateways. Don't get me wrong rA's build was awesome, I just think hydras achieved absolutely nothing in that game except giving rA more time to strengthen his "wall". I dont think going 2hatch hydras was a good idea either, just dont think mass speedlings is a better one :p
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I think that orion could have done a lot better if he had researched hydra speed for example
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On September 29 2007 19:47 strongwind wrote: not to mention he had zeals by his proxy, which would help protect cannons. And his main cannon was surrounded by probes. granted had he went speedlings i dont think ra couldve taken out orion's expansion, but who knows
If rA can at the same time triple canon his main, canon his proxy and go 2 gateway zealots safely out of 1 base against mass speedlings, there's a serious problem somewhere. Orion had almost no units because he teched way too quick and had to mine gas.
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LOL this is definitely looking like a bad day for Orion
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poor orion. Gets cheesed again.. lets see if he can handle it this time..
Stork adds a pylon and a gateway above orions base.
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Hahaha, poor Orion
or not, stork messing up and losing zeals.
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Stork and Ra giving Orion zero credit lol.
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poor orion, getting cheesed again lol
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Cheesed twice in a row, he's got some awesome luck.
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orion got early pool but wont be able to expo as planned. Stork builds 2 gateway tight outside orions ramp.
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crappy sunken positioning
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Yesterdaay or the day before yesterday someone posted a translated ro16 bracket here at TL. it was an edited screenshot. Someone still knows which thread? I cant find it anymore.
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stork isnt able to micro his zeals as planned. lings slips through heading for storks main.
orion has a sunk in his base and a lot of lings. Storks proxy might backfire.
Stork kills the pool. orion microes 4 lings in storks main.
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Orion loses pool, but keeps on hammering on Storks nexus with a few lings
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orion tries to take out the nexus instead of the probes.. almost succeeds ..
Stork goews in with all zeals and kills the sunk and alot of drones..
no more lings in storks main.
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pool rebuilt, no sunk and 2 lings.. stork has 3 zeals
stork sends some probes to help him out
orion GGs. close game there.
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Orion gonna get sacked. losing is one thing, but forgetting to bring the CJ face? no way!
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haha orion looked like he shat his pants or something
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Orion looks seriously pissed. Stork looks reliefed,
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On September 29 2007 19:55 SayGG wrote: Yesterdaay or the day before yesterday someone posted a translated ro16 bracket here at TL. it was an edited screenshot. Someone still knows which thread? I cant find it anymore.
Pretty sure it was the msl semifinalist prediction thread.
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lol @ guy with zealot speed upgrade tee-shirt
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that was too close...if it werent for bad sunken placement i think orion woulda won that
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coach has dunkin donuts box
winner gets it?
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Winner of stork vs mujuk plays savior in ro16 : )
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United States7488 Posts
On September 29 2007 19:58 ii.blitzkrieg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2007 19:55 SayGG wrote: Yesterdaay or the day before yesterday someone posted a translated ro16 bracket here at TL. it was an edited screenshot. Someone still knows which thread? I cant find it anymore. Pretty sure it was the msl semifinalist prediction thread.
Yes it was.
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=59976
edit: Presony beat me to it.
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Braavos36362 Posts
On September 29 2007 19:58 PoP wrote: lol @ guy with zealot speed upgrade tee-shirt what did the t-shirt look like?
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On September 29 2007 20:00 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2007 19:58 PoP wrote: lol @ guy with zealot speed upgrade tee-shirt what did the t-shirt look like?
only saw the back, it was black and had the yellow speed upgrade icon on it
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On September 29 2007 19:55 SayGG wrote: Yesterdaay or the day before yesterday someone posted a translated ro16 bracket here at TL. it was an edited screenshot. Someone still knows which thread? I cant find it anymore.
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=59976
B1 is rA, B2 will be the winner of the next match (not like it matters vs sAviOr!)
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On September 29 2007 20:00 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2007 19:58 PoP wrote: lol @ guy with zealot speed upgrade tee-shirt what did the t-shirt look like?
Its the symbol for speed-upgrade on the back.
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poor orion...cheesed twice and he's out of the MSL
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I still don't think Stork can beat Savior (maybe we'll get proof of that at the upcoming WCG) and since the winner of Free and Lomo will play Savior it looks like a pretty good road to the final four for Savior. I also predicted Hwasin to win this MSL anyways..... he's just too good.
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nal_ra will play forgg next and then another terran (canata or xellos) I think he have pretty good chances for semis here
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lol why the heck are they laughing?
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On September 29 2007 20:07 SchOOl_VicTIm wrote:lol why the heck are they laughing? the male player has his headphones on the wrong way.
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his headphones are inside-out.
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Wow obs might be in time....stork will win easily if they are.
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lol stork nicely trapping the dts with NO loses.
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OMG I lost all my minerals T.T
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hahahahahah stork TRAPS the first 2 dt's with his goons/zealots!!!!
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good job Storkm i knew you had it in you!
both rA and Stork advancing, excellent.
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enormous macro > crappy macro
it's like stork builds 10 units when mujuk builds 3
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there it is.. GG
rA and Stork advances.
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New bracket after today's games:
EDIT: removed spoiler
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man, this osl is gonna be pretty fucking sweet... lots of favorites in
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On September 29 2007 20:28 Gokey wrote: man, this osl is gonna be pretty fucking sweet... lots of favorites in
This is an MSL thread.
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On September 29 2007 20:25 LonelyMargarita wrote:New bracket after today's games: + Show Spoiler +
you beat me ;(
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Darn, poor Stork. Stuck with savior again, he's going to have to pull his PvZ up another level to stand a chance.
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woot stork
i was a bit worried for a second, but then i thought, what are the chances stork would lose to mujuk twice in the same night?
not very likely
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On September 29 2007 20:30 HaXxorIzed wrote: Darn, poor Stork. Stuck with savior again, he's going to have to pull his PvZ up another level to stand a chance. yeah, savior keeps beating on stork like he's nada or something
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as long as savior gets stiffer competition than hes been getting so far, im happy
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On September 29 2007 20:30 G.s)NarutO wrote:you beat me ;(
Yes, I already had it made. My psd file has all the names, I just hide the layers of the losers.
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sweet how many zergs we have till now)
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
4/4
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how can you ever 4/4 this
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hm. for another pvp final i was hoping that bisu could take out savior and stork could manage hwasin... now it's the other way round AND the presumably top four players clash even before the quarters. the grid smells like a huge... well okay nevermind.
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Yeaaaa Ra has an awesome Bracket. If he can get past ForGG, easy top 4 for our beautiful Protoss Leader.
Savior vs Free is looking very real also.
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Poor Stork, stuck with Savior in the RO16 two seasons in a row.
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United States20661 Posts
rA is strong vs both Canata and XellOs. Hope he beats ForGG
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maybe stork can man up a bit and finally win vs savior at least i hope so
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Valhalla18444 Posts
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lol wow was totally wrong my predictions ;\
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canata vs ra quarters would be quite fun if the good canata shows up that day at least.
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Personally, I want to see vintage 2003 rA vs Xellos in the quarters. :D
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On September 30 2007 02:05 Jyvblamo wrote: Poor Stork, stuck with Savior in the RO16 two seasons in a row.
Better than Ra being kicked out by Savior again imo. Ra at least HAS a good PvZ.. vs anyone but savior.
Birdman needs the practice anyway:D
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