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If Bisu loses in groups I will not be pleased. The Group of Death, although Bisu could pull out some domination in PvT with a 3:0 like he did last time.
On September 06 2007 22:01 lamarine wrote: i think it's double elimination in each group... so no 3/3.... 2/2 max :D
Oh well, I hope he faces Flash and oov. I'm always afraid of Nada. Strangely the first time I really noticed Bisu was when he knocked a Terran out of the ODT namely Boxer.
LOL@Saviors group. He will cruise through that so easy. ForGG is pretty good, but honestly I don't think he has the skills to touch savior yet. And the other two are auto wins for savior.
I like how the groups went from somewhat balanced in terms of talent to completely stacked. ~_~
I think the chances of Bisu not making it out of his group are pretty low. The way Nada/Oov have been playing as of late hasn't exactly been stellar (Nada does seem to be picking it up a bit). I don't think he really has anything to prove against Flash, other than he won't get cheesed as easily as last time.
Also, why the heck did Sea choose Hwasin, and Ruby choose Savior? It's like MBC is trying to knock out people who have a shot at beating Bisu (and maybe even 910) early. XP
Bisuit will own these pesky terrans really hard. Oov will crash Nada like a bug once again. Oov has the biggest chances to advance from terrans. Bisuit is the Owner.
Group H makes me sad. I think I'd be pretty happy with any two of July, Sea, and Oversky advancing, but I really want to see July do something this season.
Bisu that little sly sucker is so damn smart. OOV...yea ok...that a toughie. Nada...yea ok...if the 'A' game Nada shows up...that's Nada, he and everyone will say that's Nada. Flash...Bisu will do better this time against Flash. I think Bisu will prepare it better this season. Bisu got an easy group. Despite the hype MBC/GOM TV is dishing out, you got one up and coming player and two veterans in the group.
Bisu vs Flash: Bisu Nada Vs Oov: this can be anyone's game but whoever wins this game i think will advance along with Bisu.
On September 07 2007 07:30 charcute wrote: Group F Hwasin < Shudder Shine < Mind Shudder > Shine Hwasin > Mind Shine > Hwasin
Shudder, Hwasin advance.
I don't undestand, Hawsin 1-2 Mind 1-1 Shine 1-2 (he beats hwasin) And Shudder of course, 2-0 he advances
How they choose who advance in that case???
uh......if shudder wins first round and mind wins second, third round should be shudder vs. mind, not shudder vs shine. fourth round should be hwasin vs shine then.
On September 07 2007 05:01 polarwolf wrote: NaDa is overrated imho. In the last time he couldn't pull anything out of his ass. Guess he is getting too old.
On September 07 2007 05:01 polarwolf wrote: NaDa is overrated imho. In the last time he couldn't pull anything out of his ass. Guess he is getting too old.
I think Bisu was clever to end up in Group A (to the extent he had control over what happened). Although it's a tough group, he only has to practise one match-up. I think he'll be ready. I think he'll take the group without losses.
(I suppose he'll be practising for the other matchups as well, depending on what's happening in the OSL and ProLeague, but he's likely to be meeting plenty of Terrans there too.)
On September 07 2007 10:09 Waves wrote: I think Bisu was clever to end up in Group A (to the extent he had control over what happened). Although it's a tough group, he only has to practise one match-up. I think he'll be ready. I think he'll take the group 3-0.
(I suppose he'll be practising for the other matchups as well, depending on what's happening in the OSL and ProLeague, but he's likely to be meeting plenty of Terrans there too.)
He can't take it 3-0, it's double elimination. The best he can do is 2-0.
Just for those interested, Flash's score vs Bisu is actually 3-0, not 2-0. Most people forget that flash killed Bisu in the ODT qualifiers for last season as well, and that game wasn't cheese.
Also, Bisu hasn't been doing that well. Recent losses against Light, July, Anytime and Inter.Calm (2 zergs) shows that Bisu is probably not in the greatest of form. I think Flash will take it, even on Python (he is 3-1 on Python, compared to Bisu's 3-4).
Definitely the match I'm anticipating the most from the first round. Other matches I'm looking forward to is: TheManiaMST vs GoRush, Free vs FBH, Ruby vs Savior, and Sea vs July.
And personally, I believe Group H is much more a group of death than Group A. Oversky went 4-0 into the MSL quarter finals last season (killing Bisu on the way there), and Sea + July are definitely a stronger pair atm than Nada + Oov. Kwanro is a good up and coming player as well. Too bad all the nice zerg players are in one group.
This MSL will determine if Bisu has what it takes to hold onto that top spot. Flash, NaDa, Oov, Stork and Ra are all on his side of the bracket, 3 of whom are in his group. Very tricky. Gorush and FBH I don't think will be problems for him, though Light and Yarnc are potential wildcards (light is the type of guy who can knock out studs or lose to nobodies while Yarnc IMO is the type of Zerg Bisu is weakest against... very aggressive, low income -- Bisu's timing is perfect for taking out macro type Zergs).
Even though GoRush went 1-3 in their last meeting, I have faith in him to win their next encounter. He still retains that CJ revenge mentality, but isn't as stubborn as sAviOr to use the same strategy/style. Expect GoRush to have a new and interesting build the next time they meet.
Flash should hopefully beat BiSu. Actually I want all three of them to beat BiSu. Preferably oov/Flash advance
On September 07 2007 17:24 Daigomi wrote: Just for those interested, Flash's score vs Bisu is actually 3-0, not 2-0. Most people forget that flash killed Bisu in the ODT qualifiers for last season as well, and that game wasn't cheese.
Also, Bisu hasn't been doing that well. Recent losses against Light, July, Anytime and Inter.Calm (2 zergs) shows that Bisu is probably not in the greatest of form. I think Flash will take it, even on Python (he is 3-1 on Python, compared to Bisu's 3-4).
Definitely the match I'm anticipating the most from the first round. Other matches I'm looking forward to is: TheManiaMST vs GoRush, Free vs FBH, Ruby vs Savior, and Sea vs July.
And personally, I believe Group H is much more a group of death than Group A. Oversky went 4-0 into the MSL quarter finals last season (killing Bisu on the way there), and Sea + July are definitely a stronger pair atm than Nada + Oov. Kwanro is a good up and coming player as well. Too bad all the nice zerg players are in one group.
Nice post, I like the way you break things down. I think you're putting too much value on some wins though. If you watched the games you would know that Oversky's 4-0 performance was not as good as those numbers indicate. The games sucked ass and he generally won BO games over better oppoenets. I expect him to get raped in groups and do nothing this tournament. Watch it happen.
Group A is definitly the group of death. Oversky isn't as good as people pretend he is, Kwanro is a total question mark seeing as he hasn't played in a major yet and July isn't in any better shape than Nada or Oov. Not to mention the fact that they aren't even the top pair in the group, Bisu and Flash are! And Bisu/Flash are a better pair than Sea/July (mainly because July doesn't hang with those 3 right now).
Don't think yourself in circles based on weak win runs and up and comers.
On September 09 2007 06:05 ManaBlue wrote: and July isn't in any better shape than Nada or Oov.
July at least made it fairly deep into MSL, and he did knock Bisu out of ODT. Granted, that was a while back but I'd say he's been doing a lot better than Oov or Nada.