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1st match : Mingu(Z, KTF) vs TheMarine(T, KTF)
1st game : Raid Assault Mingu > TheMarine
2nd game : Arizona Mingu < TheMarine
3rd game : Into the Darkness 2 Mingu < TheMarine
TheMarine beats Mingu 2-1.
TheMarine advances to winner's bracket, Mingu gets another shot in the looser's bracket.
2nd match Nada(T, P&C) vs Kingdom(P, SKT1)
1st game : Luna Nada < Kingdom
2nd game : Raid Assault Nada > Kingdom
3rd game : Arizona Nada > Kingdom
Nada comes back and beat Kingdom 2-1. Kingdom now falls to the loosers bracket, and Nada advances to winner bracket.
Now Mingu will face Chojja, and Kingdom will face Jju.
Next week games are : Looser's bracket round of 8 Julyzerg vs Midas Iloveoov vs ArtofTerran
GoGo ARtofTerran!!!!!!
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Mingu starts at 6, Marine starts at 12.
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^^
thanks for ur live updates
I hope nada and themarine win
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Mingu goes drone scouting at a relatively early timing..Marine goes 11scv 1 rax, then early gas..Mingu finds that Marine isn't doing early bunker rush so he takes his nat.
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Mingu now builds pool and gas, and TM builds factory,,TM really going fast tech build
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TM goes 2 starport,,Mingu doesn't know about it but he sees a vulture and maybe he will realize the starports
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TM had 4 marines blocking his entrance but Mingu had like 15 zerglings and he just broke through the line..TM has 2 wraiths but they go to attack instead of defend.
TM gest heavy scv damage and lifts his CC
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TM didn't think that Mingu would mass up so many zerglings..
Really good sense from Mingu, knowing TM was going dropship or wraith build, he built many zerglings and attacked at terran's weak timing.
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TM's main is now all blown.."gg" situation but TM still has a floating command center and is killing overlords with 2 wraiths
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But now Mingu has scourges and hydras.. Mingu as 3 wraiths now but scourges kill two of them..TM "gg"s
Game time 7minutes 19seconds!
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Why is TheMarine playing so bad against zergs?
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Well you can't say that bad since he 2-0ed Chojja to advance to the winner's bracket
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2nd game starts.. Mingu at 5 TM at 8. Map is Arizona.
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TM is doing 8scv rax..a very early rax timing.
Mingu luckily scouts this with overlord and builds pool first instead of nat hatchery
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TM tried to give damage early in the game but Mingu is well prepared now.
Now TM goes gas.
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Just as in the first game TM goes early fac..
Mingu takes his nat now
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TM goes 2 starport again.
Mingu has around 10 zerglings currently.
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Mingu now goes lair.
Mingu might know that TM is doing wraiths since his overlord found out that TM isn't making any marines.
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TM now making wraiths..Mingu making his spire.
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Mingu finds out the 2 starport by sacrificing his overlord.
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Mingu now makes a hydra den..meanwhile TM kills 2 overlords
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Valhalla18444 Posts
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TM also kills one drone but Mingu defends really nicely by building spores both at his main and nat, and then taking an expo at 2. He also makes scourges
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Mingu killes one wraith with scourges..knowing he won't do more damage TM switches to bionic.
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Mingu scouts with zerglingsa nd finds out that TM is going bionic.
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TM now finds out about Mingu's expo at 2 and tries to harass with wraiths
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At the same time TM head center with MMF troops and 2 tanks but it doesn't look easy since Mingu has lurkers
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Mingu defends 2 expo from wraiths, TM gets science vessle and heads center
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TM's troops look strong..about 2 tanks, vessle, and +1 attack upgraded 12 marines
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There is fight in the center where TM comes out on top and is now pressuring Mingu's nat. His hatchery and hydra den is destroyed..
Mingu tries to counter attack with hydras but fails
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TM's forces look very strong, looks like they will end the game. They head into Mingu's main.
Mingu knows he can't do anything to stop these troops and "GG'S"
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Hmm..maybe this shows a bit of imbalance between Terran and Zerg?
Zerg couldn't take his nat early in the game so he looses despite having an advantage.
Mingu was clearly ahead in the game when TM did almost no damage with 2 starport wraiths.
Mingu also had a gas expo at 2, but TM won rather easily..
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Is it Bo3, if so which map is third?
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3rd game starts, map is Into the Darkness 2.
TM starts at 8, Mingu at 2
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TM sends his scv towards Mingu's nat right when the game starts,,so he started out with 3 scvs
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TM built a proxy rax near the nat where Mingu couldn't see and Mingu carried on by building a hatchery at his nat
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With the scv TM started building a bunker and when one marine came Mingu found out the proxy rax and canceled his nat hatchery
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TM then got his marines and scv up the ramp and into Mingu's main..then he built a bunker behind the minerals and built a depot to prevent zerglings from attacking.
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Mingu managed to get rid of the bunker and depot with zerglings and drones but he was heavily damaged.
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Then with 4 more marines TM attacked and killed all but 4 drones..
TM is way in the advantage..
Mingu can't even go counter attack since the bunker in the nat is still not destroyed
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wow, themarine taking lessons from his old nemesis Boxer?
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Mingu has about 10 zerglings, TM has 3 firebats, 5 marines, 1 medic..
There is a fight but all the zerglings melt to the 2 firebats and Mingu "GG's"
Game time 7 minutes 4 seconds.
Mingu now goes to the looser's bracket and TM goes to the winner bracket
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Thx for the reports. There is a crowd of people behind me asking for updates ^^. We all are thankful.
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Wicked, your with friends at your house waiting for BW updates? Thats nice
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Norway28263 Posts
thanks for entertaining me at work
any more matches coming up? =]
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Next match, Nada vs Kingdom BO3
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Norway28263 Posts
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2nd match Nada vs Kingdom
1st game : Luna
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Game starts
Kingdom starts out at 11
Nada starts out at 5.
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Nada is currently on a 5 game winning streak against protoss
Kingdom isn't doing so well
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Nada goes normal build, depot,rax,gas.
Kingdom scouts with probe at an early timing and finds Nada's base on his first try.
Nada building marine, Kingdom sending 1 zeal to try and do some damage
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Nada has 2 marines, and now goes 1 fac.
Kingdom's zeal comes in and he is trying to do damage with one probe one zeal.
The zeal kills 2 marines + 1 more marine but dies to scvs.
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Actuallly I'm in school and i am supposed to be at a lecture (Quantum Mechanics) but this is more important. The people standing here are a few students that play bw but can't really speak english so i have to translate ur posts a bit... Keep updates comin' ...
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Meanwhile Kingdom is going fast tech, he is now building templar archives.
Nada scouts with scv..its unsure if he saw it or not. It may have barely appeared on the scv's sight range or it might have not
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Nada going double CC, I guess he didn't see the templar archives.
Nada also has one tank.
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Nada pushes with 2 tanks 2 marines, Kingdom has 3 goons to counter and now his dark templar is heading to Nada's base.
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Nada finished his engineering bay and is building turrent but the dt arrive a bit faster and prevented Nada from landing his second CC at his nat
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Kingdom doesn't go into the main and tries to contain Nada with 2 dts and 2 goons.
Kingdom now goes Robotics. Looks like Nada won't be able to land the CC until he gest comstats
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Nada uses the comsat to clear out the 2 dts at his nat.
Kingdom shows bad micro and looses one goon.
Now Nada lands his second CC at his nat.
Nada has a bit more units than Kingdom does.
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Kingdom also finished his nat.
Kingdom gathering goons and Nada gathering more vults than tanks
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Nada now goes 4 fac, Kingdom goes 3 gate.
Kingdom builds shuttle and puts dt's in it.
Looks like he is goign for dark templar drop
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But Nada is aware of this and reacts fast with vults.
Kingdom doesn't do any damage but he doesn't loose any units either.
What Kingdom is doing he is delaying Nada so he himself can prepare more units.
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Iraq1230 Posts
thx alot for the updates [BOyGiRl]ShaRp. btw what map is it?
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Now Kingdom takes expo at 12 which Nada is unaware of.
Kingdom is now 6 gate and is massing up goons.
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The map is Luna
Nada also take expo at 6.
Nada tries to harass expo at 12 with vults but Kingdom has too many units there to defend.
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Kingdom now goes stargate.
Nada is 5 fac, 2 armory now
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Kingdom is very successful at delaying Nada's advance to the center.
He drops dt's here and there to irritate Nada
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Nada now takes the center with mass vults and tanks.
Kingdom has many goons and zeals as well.
Kingdom building a carrier from one stargate.
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Nada now takes expo at 7, and is 7~8 fac and builds starport.
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Kingdom takes expo at 2.
Kingdom now has 1 carrier and is building more from 2 stargates now.
Nada finds out the expo at 2 and is trying to destroy it before it gets finished but Kingdom's goons come and save it
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Nada now takes another expo at 7 nat.
Nada now has 4 places where he is getting minerals/gas.
His units are +1 attack and +1 defense.
Nada is currently in control of the center and is overpowering Kingdom in land units but Kingdom has carriers..
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Nada now attacks the 2 expo with vults but goons come and save it before any damage is done.
Kingdom shows some sexy skills by blocking the huge entrance with 2 pylons and 3 gateways
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Nada is like 12 fac now.
He now builds golls, he found out about the carriers.
Nada is in the unit lead and in the economic lead.
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Kingdom uses the side bridge to attack the 7 expo but Nada prevents this and there is a mass fight at 7 nat area.
Kingdom destroys expos at 7 and 7 nat, but all his units die except carriers who barely got away from the golls
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OMG nada is unstoppable if he gets his hands on this kind of economy...
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Kingdom is trying to even up the game..
Kingdom currently has no upgrades, where Nada has +2 attack and +2 defense
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Nada has a lot of tanks+golls, Kingdom now attacks the 6 expo with carriers but fails to destroy it.
Nada meanwhile attacks the 2 nat expo and destroys it
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Nada has so many units that he can divide his troops into 2. An attack troop and a defense troop. But both troops are effective since Nada has just too many units
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How many expos does Kingdom have? And how many carriers?
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Kingdom has about 8 carriers..
Kingdom successfully destroys the nat at 6.
Nada destroys the nat at 2.
Kingdom really showing nice Carrier micro.
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It's hard to say who has more expos since they are being created then destroyed just like that.
Kingdom now has only carriers where Nada has +3 attack +3 defense golls and tanks
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Nada appears to be in the lead but Kingdom is really doing effective fighting..going around and destroying the expos only and avoiding fights with golls
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Nada in control of land, Kingdom in control of air.
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To win this, Kingdom must get some land units..
It's really a busy busy fight, expos being created and then destroyed, then re-created then re-destroyed,
Kingdom now head to Nada's main with 12 goons and 12 carriers
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but we all know how this will end... Nada will win. I am a terr player but i find myself cheering for other race users.... Hmm, maybe tired of terrans wining almost everything.
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All of Nada's units are in the center so this may prove very effective..
Currently Kingdom has no place where he is gathering minerals, but Nada has about 2 CC's where he is gathering minerals/gas.
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All of Nada's factory are destroyed..
Kingdom kills one more expo and now Nada only has 1 CC gathering minerals.
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It can be anybody's game now..
Nada appeared to be in the lead but Kingdom used carriers so well
Kingdom now destroying like 30 depots at Nada's main.
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Norway28263 Posts
hm
how many + attack on the carriers?
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But Nada still has 2 expos where Kingdom has none.
Kingdom now attacks the expo with carriers + dts.
Kingdom kills the comsat, academy, engineering bay so there is no way for Nada to get rid of the dt.
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Carriers are +2 attack upgrade..and Nada just "GG's"
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Norway28263 Posts
haha
yay
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wow, sounds like a great game. Finished just in time for me to go to work, but why did Nada give up, didn`t he have a lot of units and Kingdom no expo as well.
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Nada was in the huge unit and economic lead. Having like 3 more expos than Kingdom, and having +3 attack +3 defense land units.
But Kingdom fought effectively.
Destroying only the expos and avoiding mass fights and that ended up in both players not being able to make more units and carriers>golls if carriers use the map effectively
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I cannot believe this, DevilToss is back? ^^ Shit and now I am sad for nada. I am really weird.
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Yeah Nada had 1 expo, and Kingdom had none.
Nada was trying to defend that expo but Kingdom killed 1 goll by 1 using carrier micro,,and Nada knew he couldn't win against the carriers fighting like this.
Also Kingdom had dt's and Nada had no comsat or turrets
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Commentators are saying that guerilla beat the mass amount. They compare it to a very tiny guerilla troop fighting against a big ass army and the guerilla troop fighting effectively, cutting sources here and there and using the fact that they are small and easy to move while the big army is hard to move around
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2nd game map is Raid Assault, Kingdom at 6 Nada at 12
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Hmm calling carriers tiny is a bit off, but the analogy fits in a weird way...
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Kingdom goes 1 gate gas and then cybernetics cors.
Nada goes 1 rax gas then factory
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Kingdom goes fast robotics instead of doing range upgrade.
Nada goes starport instead of 2 fac.
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Kingdom pushes with 1 goon and then goes support bay.
Nada adds machine shop and control tower.
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Nada gets 2 tanks in a dropship and goes to drop but Kingdom knows this and puts goons here and there to defend.
Kingdom now gets a reaver and heads to Nada's base
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Kingdom drops with 1 goon and 1 reaver but kills scv and almost looses his reaver.
Nada now has 2 dropships.
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Kingdom going around Nada's base, looking to attack and just attacks and kills about 6 scvs.
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Now Kingdom also has 2 shuttles.
Kingdom tries to take his nat, Nada tries to prevent this but fails and retreats.
Nada takes his nat as well.
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Now the shuttles are speed upgraded,
4 goons are dropped at Nada's expo but retreat without doing damage.
Kingdom now goes Citadel of Adun.
Both players gathering minerals from their nats
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Not mcuh fighting going on,,
Nada tries to contain Kingdom with tanks+vulture line in front of Kingdom's expo.
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there is a 4 tank drop at Kingdom's main but no damage is done and Nada retreats.
Nada is now 5 fac, and Nada has the control of center.
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Seems like an action-packed game... Nada micro with d-ship is imo only second best to Boxers.
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Kingdom tries to break through the containment line with goonds and zeals and shuttle drops.
He seems to break through the line but just looses 4 goons to a single mine and retreats
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Nada agin drops at Kingdom's main with 3 tanks and does some probe damage..
All the probes run away to the nat.
Another vulture drop at Nada's main, Now 3 tanks 4 vults.
Nada's troops are all killed by Kingdom..Nada didn't do much damage
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While Kingdom was defending Nada attacks Kingdom's expo with vults..very nice play by Nada.
And Kingdom just builds a scout
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Nada destroys Kingdom's nat but Kingdom has one more expo near 5.
But this expo looks like it will also get destroyed by vults..
Huge probe damage from Kingdom
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Instead of attacking Kingdom tries to counter-attack Nada's nat but he fails and "GG's"
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A really nice game with hit and run tactics from both players.
Nada won the mass center fight with 2 tanks surviving, and attacked Kingdom here and there repeatedly and made Kingdom loose control of the game.
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Game starts, Nada 2,
Kingdom at 5.
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Kingdom goes early scouting before making pylon..
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And luckily finds Nada's base at first try. Kingdom attempt gas rush but Nada builds refinery like 0.2 seconds earlier
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Kingdom prevents Nada from building rax with probe harassing
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But eventually Nada starts to build rax and Kingdom builds gate..
Kingdom's probe still running around Nada's base and harassing here and there
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Nada goes 1 fac now, and kills the probe with marine.
Kingdom is now researching range upgrade for goons and is building goons from 1 gateway.
Nada attaches machine shop to his 1 fac
Kingdom adds one more gateway
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Nada follows by building his second factory and researching siege upgrade.
Kingdom's one goon is hitting Nada's barrack
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Now Kingdom has 2 goons pressuring Nada at his entrance, Nada has one tank to defend .
Both players doing mciro fight.
Siege upgrade is completed and the goons run away
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Nada now gets vults, and Kingdom gathers goons and obs.
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Nada heads center with 5 vults and a few tanks but Kingdom has around 10 goons.
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Nada builds a CC in his base.
Nada now has 4 tanks 5 vults
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Kingdom takes expo at his nat, mineral only.
Nada finishes his CC and lands it in his nat as well
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6 tanks siege in front of the nat.
Kingdom has around 12 goons.
Zeals are dorpped at the sieges but they don't do damage.
Meanwhile Kingdom destroys the nat CC with goons and retreats.
He looses only 1 zeal and 2 goons and destroys the CC in exchange.
Kingdom now in the lead with his expo gathering minerals
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Nada is now rebuilding his CC.
Kingdom drops zeals at Nada's main and vultures come back to defend.
Kingdom irritating Nada with constatns drops
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Kingdom adds more gates and gathers goons.
Nada's CC is now finished and he builds more facs as well.
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Kingdom now takes an expo at 6.
Nada now has 6 facs.
Kingdom now getting high templars.
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hmm, link ?
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Nada makes a siege line in the center but Kingdom attacks with his units anyway.
After a few seconds Kingdom retreats knowing he won't make it through
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Kingdom's expo at 6 is finished , Nada tries to take expo at 11.
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Kingdom does high templar drop at Nada's nat but does little damage
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Nada now builds 2 armories for upgrades.
Kingdom gets 2 stargates and is building carriers.
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Both players hae a lot of land units..Nada is in control of the center
Kingdom looked like he was in the lead but Nada has control of the center so its pretty even now.
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Nada also takes expo at the 12 area.
Kingdom drops 4 zeals at Nada's main but they all die before doing anything.
Kingdom knows he needs to do something but he's not sure so he just does ineffective zeal drops
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Kingdom now has 3 carriers and is attacking Nada's main..
Nada advances to Kingdom's nat instead.
Nada doesn't even siege mode..he just has too many units
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Nada really showing confidence,,not even doing siege mode.
Carriers come back to defend but retreat after seeing 15 golls.
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oh shit!! gogo nada ! !:D
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Kingdom's nat is now destroyed and Nada pushes into Kingdom's main.
Kingdom tries to do damage with carriers but Nada has too many golls
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Kingdom appeared to be in the lead but he left Nada alone without doing any scv damage..
Nada is a monster even with one expo..and even though Kingdom took the expo much earlier Nada had much more units somehow
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Carriers destroy one of Nada's expos, but Nada destroys Kingdom's main.
It's hopeless for Kingdom now..
He only has 4 carriers..
In the first game he had around 10~12 so the carriers proved effective but 4 carriers aren't much of a threat to mass golls
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Kingdom just "gg's"
and Nada looks very relieved.
Kingdom goes to loosers, and Nada goes to winners bracket.
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My poor kingdom
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Nope, that's all for today
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Could someone link me to the pictures of this event on fighterforum?
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-_-!
from this thread ,the third games of nada vs kingdom is quite incredible ... how could nada have done this ? lost a cc in the early stage of the match ,but his troop were still too powerful to stop...
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When Kingdom was in the economic lead, he should have attacked or done some damage but he failed and Nada became too powerful.
For example a 1000 mineral difference between 1500 and 2500 is quite big, but its nothing much when its 15000 and 16000.
A 10 tank difference of 5 tanks and 15 tanks is huge, but its not much when its 100 and 110.
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Russian Federation18 Posts
Great thx to [BOyGiRl]Sharp! And no thx to Kingdom. How you can lose! T.T
BTW anyone knows Mingu's name? _____ Min Gu ????
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Valhalla18444 Posts
He can lose because NaDa is G R E A T
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Why didn't we have a liquibet on these matches T_T!
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On December 02 2004 15:44 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: He can lose because NaDa is G R E A T eh just got lucky
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