Settle this Fight Debate - Page 23
Forum Index > General Forum |
TreK
Sweden2089 Posts
| ||
Sun
United States551 Posts
| ||
TreK
Sweden2089 Posts
| ||
NewbSaibot
3849 Posts
On November 26 2006 09:39 exalted wrote: -You cannot use any outside weapons, bite, or do anything other than use the weapons you have. Oh I didn't remember this part... Ok, if you can't kick then GG bat. Wtf? Ok then you cant use your arms or your back or anything to block the bat. The two of you have to face each other cold cocked. GG knife. | ||
tKd_
United States2916 Posts
| ||
QuietIdiot
7004 Posts
On November 26 2006 17:34 QuietIdiot wrote: Someone had to do it -_-; Poll: Bat or Knife (Vote): Bat (Vote): Knife (Vote): Improbable. FROM 10 PAGES BACK! | ||
rockstar101
United States32 Posts
| ||
Bladox
Canada763 Posts
On December 07 2006 12:16 ToT)Testie( wrote: Thing is, who really controls the fight? I say the knifer. They don\'t tire half as easily and the person with the bat WANTS to keep you at a distance. They will end up swinging out of sheer fear if you play it right. They can\'t rush you after all. You can rush them at any moment they make a mistake. Who controls the fight ? maybe not the guy with the bat but HELL NOT the guy with the knife! Try to \'\'rush\'\' me with you\'re knife and you\'ll see that the closer you\'ll get will be 1.5 meters before your body collapses on the ground. Go to your kitchen, act like a crazy person, grab a big kitchen knife and make a few stabbing motions. If anyone catches you, assure them you\'re not planning anything. Or.. assure them of nothing, your preference really. Anyway, then go pick up your bat, and swing it. Swing the bat constantly for 30 seconds. Stab with the knife constantly for 30 seconds. A lot more stabs than swings. This fight won\'t be 30 sec of missed stikes.... one oponent will make ONE good move and it will be over. Then, plant your feet like any athlete would when you swing as well. If you don\'t plant and power up, it\'s not doing enough damage to take you out. Not enough damage to take you out? I played baseball for 10 years and I can assure you that unless I\'m standing on one foot dancing like a fuck* clown my swing will be powerfull enough to take you out in 1 shot. Then, take the knife. Lunge with it a few times. Different angles, realize how versatile it is. And the speed with which it moves. A bat does not add such an incredible amount of distance that it cannot be closed within a few steps. True. The knife is very versatile. But the range of the bat makes all the difference. It adds at least one meter of range wich is enough to get away from any knife strikes. Say they fake stab at you. Or they make some feints. The person with the bat swings, to keep the knife at a distance. Knowing 2/3rds to 80% of the length of his weapon is useless when hitting someone. You can\'t fake an attack that easily without receiving an unforgivable strike. The 1.5 meter you have to cross is long enough for your opponent to time his swing and hit you with a critical hit. Any kick after a bat swing will at best be off balance, and have little real power behind it and will only make the bat user more awkward at fighting. Assuming you survived the swing....wich I doubt will ever happen You step into that swing after falling back, giving them time to recoil but they swing again. However you\'d be within the bats range. It wouldn\'t knock you out or kill you if you got hit with the middle of the bat, only the end. Have you ever hold a bat in your hand? Even the middle of the bat would crush you down. And unless you have 0 aiming skills, hitting a target as large and slow as a human body with the tip of the bat is ridiculously easy... Just think of it a little bit... A single diagonal blow aiming from your left shoulder to the right side of your hip would be the safest strike assuming that you highly underestimate your aiming potential...And even that easy stike would be powerfull. You must connect with the end of the bat, and even then... I can\'t see someone taking a single body shot with a bat and not surviving. Pain means very little when your goal is to kill the other person not hurt them and make them say \"ow ow I give up\" Ok you seriously underestimate the power of the bat... I can\'t see someone taking a single body shot with a bat and surviving it. Oh yeah you\'ll survive it but you\'ll be on the ground totally defenseless.If they swing, you can jump in 2 steps in which it\'d be a close range fight and you\'d end up with nothing more than a bruise because you couldn\'t connect with the end of the bat. 1. You can\'t reverse the momentum after it\'s reached the halfway point, and if you do you\'re already fucked because your weapon will do no damage what so ever because of the awkward control you have. 2. If you complete the swing, it will take you some seconds to swing again. You won\'t have time to do your 2-3 feint steps... you won\'t have time to take advantage of a missed bat strike. Even if he misses his strike ( I still dont see how it would be possible) he can jump backward or simply hit you with the other side of the bat or even take another full swing.. I mean hold a bat in your hand and swing... it takes fractions of a second to recover from a missed swing. The slow motion video you showed only proves the knifes case. Same with the other video. All these men have time where they plant, and get ready. After swinging once it will take them time to swing again. You cannot swing when one is in close range. Again... assuming he manages to get in close range... I mean ...your not playing broodwar and microing some shit out of a ling ......its real life you\'re trying to approcha someone who as a bat in his hands... Athletic or not, it is due to momentum and the motions that bats will always take longer to swing. And to have enough power to do damage, you need to power that swing up. You can\'t just keep the knife user at bay by holding it like a sword, and poking at him. It\'s designed, and weighed for it\'s purpose, swinging from one side to another. Most other motions are awkward. Yes you can simply keep the knife user at bay by holding it like a sword, and poking at him. YOu can simply walk towards him with the bat aiming upward above your shoulder and nobody will be able to approach you. the bat dont weights a fuck*n ton... its a baseball bat it is made to be quick.As I said, bat users suck at strategy. Leave starcraft please..... And athletic or not these users have the same type of build. An athletic person could close distance just as easily with the knife, if not a bit faster. And a full extension of your arm, and a stab is far quicker than a wide swing with an object. You talk like if a swing takes 3 seconds to perform... it takes AT MOST 0.5 seconds... You dont need to hold the bat far behind you in order to have enough power to take your opponent in on shot. And athletic may mean a blunt weapon may do even less damage as vitals are padded by muscles which may end up damaged, but have done their job protecting vital areas. A knife tears muscles easily, and quickly. padded by muscles..... lol..... You\'re getting hit by a f***** club man....... oh and I would take the bat anytime | ||
TreK
Sweden2089 Posts
| ||
TreK
Sweden2089 Posts
On December 07 2006 17:08 rockstar101 wrote: I remember my friend who took martial arts telling me about how they teach you to fight someone with a baseball bat, since it is a common item. He was taught to quickly step into the swing because if you get hit with the end of the back, you're fucked, but if you get hit with the middle of the bat, it's not so bad. They taught him to take the hit in the ribs as far into the handle of the bat as possible, then to bring your arm down over the bat to pin it there. It will hurt, but if you have a knife in the other hand, its GG. No idea how viable that all is, but its what I remember. i vote for this guy! | ||
Sun
United States551 Posts
P.S. This thread will so hit 50 pages -_-;; | ||
Chill
Calgary25940 Posts
On December 08 2006 08:23 Sun wrote: I've been hit with plenty of wooden baseball bats before and it doesn't fucking hurt. Sure thing. | ||
ZaplinG
United States3818 Posts
On December 08 2006 08:23 Sun wrote: I've been hit with plenty of wooden baseball bats before and it doesn't fucking hurt. haha, what? why have you been hit with plenty of wooden baseball bats before? | ||
Sadist
United States6980 Posts
On December 08 2006 08:23 Sun wrote: I've been hit with plenty of wooden baseball bats before and it doesn't fucking hurt. Getting stabbed is a totally different ballgame. Get that through your thick skulls. instead of theorycrafting how about you kids try it first. Then come back here and tell your 'wild' stories. P.S. This thread will so hit 50 pages -_-;; lol @ this dipshit | ||
a-game
Canada5085 Posts
EDIT: hmm guess that should of been "bat ftw" w/e | ||
KovacsFlorian
204 Posts
On December 08 2006 14:54 a-game wrote: dude i've been stabbed in the heart 37 times, and it didn't hurt. knife ftw!!!1!11 ROFL | ||
lykk
China38 Posts
the bat is not even desgined as a weapon, if there were many kinds of weapons with the same length/weight as the bat. bat will be near the bottom of the pile. it's round shape deals the least damage possible. as it creates the least pressure. the only thing worse i can think of is a stick but even that's more versital, u can poke, hold it in the middle, and spin | ||
Cpt Obvious
Germany3073 Posts
| ||
Wysp
Canada2299 Posts
jesus fucking christ let it die please let it die let it die please. | ||
Quanticfograw
United States2053 Posts
| ||
| ||