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I didn't interpret best alone, but best EVER. I don't take into account skill levels back then and now. All I know is JD has the most skill compared to every other player on the list in terms of both mechanics and mind games/strategy. BEST ALL AROUND okay. none of the oov 27-0 tvz and such.
Oov/Boxer were extremely good, but not in all aspects. Boxer's macro was bad, but amazing micro and Oov is vice versa.
Bisu/Flash are the best in their respective races right now, but if you watch them play esp bisu, they make way too many mistakes to be considered best. There's not excuse for bisu and his sloppiness. When I see Flash play, he reminds me of Oov with heavy macro adv style. Even bisu wooped his ass seeing as how flash just did his 2 base mass crap.
Now Nada and Savior would be second pick since they would be the BEST PLAYER EVER if there were no JD. Even in their primes, their plays were far from perfect. It just meant that they didn't even need to play perfect to win at their time. JD doesn't need to play perfect to win either i'm sure, but JD does play pretty perfect anyway. that's why he doesn't just win he dominates.
I'm a savior fanboy...not JD...i just can't deny his greatness though
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On February 23 2009 08:45 Ideas wrote: well flash is the best most skilled player of all time, but nada is the most successful, oov was the most dominate, and boxer was the most popular...
voted flash I have no idea what you're talkin about. Flash is the best most skilled of all time? Nobody is the best, if you're the best, you don't get beaten, period.
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I believe the only answear is GuemChi
Edit: wow, there is a player named Only
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Favorite player Ever: BoxeR
Best player Ever: NaDa
Although I can't beleive oov has so few votes. Nada has the most achievments and success over time but in terms of dominance in raw win rate I'm pretty sure oov was the most dominate.
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Along with all those people who already said so, I don't think bisu belongs here. For me, it's like it doesn't matter how good you are and how many wins you get, but how your games play out. If you win all your games but in every game, you do some stupid shit and lose a shuttle or a bunch of templars, I CANNOT SAY YOU ARE THE BEST. some people might argue that that's just how good he is, he doesn't even need that stuff. BUT seriously, i would want to see the best player as someone who just uses all those "extra" stuff and DOMINATE. how about that?
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Skill wise it's obviously Flash. But seeing as best isn't all about skill I'm gonna go with the guy who has 6 major league titles and countless more special event ones.
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Wow
ban for everyone who did not vote boxer
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they dont call him the emperor for nothing
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If they have a good day?
Jaedong or Flash.
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JAEDONG FTW! He is sick I bet 2009 is year for jaedong! Screw the savior hype gogo jaedong fighting...
Voted flash ^^
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I can't believe Savior is ahead of Nada. Savior won 3 MSL and 1 OSL, Bisu won 3 MSL and the Intel Classic Season 2. In terms of success, both Savior and Bisu have accomplished equally. In term of domination, Savior have had his time in the shine, but has faded away. Bisu had his time in the sun, slump, but came back and showed his ability of being a champion once again. Savior is nothing but overrated, and he doesn't deserve to even be consider as one of the candidate. If Savior was so great, he wouldn't get owned by Firebathero, he would find a way to overcome that obstacle, that's a trait of a champion.
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Why is oov so low? Also dunno how you could vote for anyone besides Boxer
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Voted for boxer, but nada isn't a bad choice either.
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TL auto votes Boxer.
Realistically you have to pick Nada/Flash/Savior though.
Aurioch, only someone who wasn't around during Savior's time of domination can say anything as... frankly ignorant as that. Savior is not overrated in the least, like at all. No one could so much as TOUCH him during his dominant reign, something that most of the other people on this list can't claim.
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The way I see it, this is a three way horse race between Boxer, Nada, and Oov
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On February 23 2009 12:05 JohnBall wrote:I believe the only answear is GuemChiEdit: wow, there is a player named Only I agree.
GuemChi easily surpasses all of those silly no name players. What a fail poll.
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Based on awesomeness. Boxer
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On February 23 2009 12:35 Aurioch wrote: I can't believe Savior is ahead of Nada. Savior won 3 MSL and 1 OSL, Bisu won 3 MSL and the Intel Classic Season 2. In terms of success, both Savior and Bisu have accomplished equally. In term of domination, Savior have had his time in the shine, but has faded away. Bisu had his time in the sun, slump, but came back and showed his ability of being a champion once again. Savior is nothing but overrated, and he doesn't deserve to even be consider as one of the candidate. If Savior was so great, he wouldn't get owned by Firebathero, he would find a way to overcome that obstacle, that's a trait of a champion.
LOL. Savior doesn't deserve to be in this poll? Are you fucking mad? I mean wtf!? No matter if you're a fanboy, a hater, or something in between, there's just no way in the world any sane man could ever argue that Savior doesn't belong in a "best player ever" poll. Back in his prime, he was THE player to beat. Bisu isn't even considered the favorite against many players, and this is actually his prime right now. Just wait until next week when Jaedong will play tennis with his balls.
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On February 23 2009 12:48 Jayme wrote: TL auto votes Boxer.
Realistically you have to pick Nada/Flash/Savior though.
Aurioch, only someone who wasn't around during Savior's time of domination can say anything as... frankly ignorant as that. Savior is not overrated in the least, like at all. No one could so much as TOUCH him during his dominant reign, something that most of the other people on this list can't claim. Bisu rolled him during his domination erra, and if he was such a champion, he would be able to find his touch back, but he didn't, and don't forget about his humiliation with FirebatHero.
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On February 23 2009 13:00 Mooncat wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2009 12:35 Aurioch wrote: I can't believe Savior is ahead of Nada. Savior won 3 MSL and 1 OSL, Bisu won 3 MSL and the Intel Classic Season 2. In terms of success, both Savior and Bisu have accomplished equally. In term of domination, Savior have had his time in the shine, but has faded away. Bisu had his time in the sun, slump, but came back and showed his ability of being a champion once again. Savior is nothing but overrated, and he doesn't deserve to even be consider as one of the candidate. If Savior was so great, he wouldn't get owned by Firebathero, he would find a way to overcome that obstacle, that's a trait of a champion. LOL. Savior doesn't deserve to be in this poll? Are you fucking mad? I mean wtf!? No matter if you're a fanboy, a hater, or something in between, there's just no way in the world any sane man could ever argue that Savior doesn't belong in a "best player ever" poll. Back in his prime, he was THE player to beat. Bisu isn't even considered the favorite against many players, and this is actually his prime right now. Just wait until next week when Jaedong will play tennis with his balls. Yea, Savior was the player to beat, and he got beat, and he sanked, and never got up. I'm mad, sounds like you're slamming your keyboard to me. I simply compare Savior to the likes of Nada, Boxer, and Oov.
In comparison to domination, each of those players had their shine. In terms of accomplishment, Savior doesn't even suffice of what Boxer, Nada, and Oov did. It's funny how everyone bashed Bisu saying he's ignorant, and yet it was Savior who said "I will destroy everyone in 2009", so much for everyone, getting pwned by Great yesterday in Winners league. Thank you come again
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